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Thanks Normal Man
Nowthen - you might be right, I'll check 😉 I did it so it matched each side 😳 🙂
jonny rocky mountain - how was it and what did you ride before?
forge197 - Member
Thanks Normal ManNowthen - you might be right, I'll check I did it so it matched each side
The drive side chainstay generally gets more of a battering form the chain that the non-driveside one.
Forge197
It was nice! Just need to give it a few more rides and get my set up spot on before 100% comments! I have rode in the last couple of years ti 456 (really really really nice) asr5 ok, 29er scandal (nice), cannondale prophet (really nice), ST4 (really nice), Carbon 456 (ok, too stiff), so I'll keep you informed on how I go with the soul but so far so good, my main hope is for it to be as good as if not better than my ti 456, as the only reason I sold it was to move wheel size!!!
Thanks JRM - I sold on my 29er Scandal for the Soul, I also had a 456 Carbon a few years ok that is one stiff bike fun though I thought.
I'll see the soul rides tomorrow riding around a flat small garden didn't tell me much!!.
my main hope is for it to be as good as if not better than my ti 456, as the only reason I sold it was to move wheel size!!!
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First ride today, good fun, it feels very much like a Prince Albert that I had many years ok, but with a little more stability and comfort, carries speed well, handles nicely very pleased now to see where I fancy riding tomorrow.
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Is the blue one a 275 or 26?
If the latter, how did they compare?
No wheel size debate intended, I care about my cat too much 😉
Both 275, and it's still great today 🙂
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Cool. Thanks. Great pic.
I'm so tempted with one of these.
Thanks Normal Man, I don't think you'd be disappointed had a fair few different hard tails, Dialled Alpine, Prince Albert's, Carbon 456 and this seems to take all the best bits I liked from those and have it in one bike.
It feels very stable, rolls well and carries speed wheel though corners and over obstacles. It's certainly more nimble and fun to ride than my 29er Scandal which it replaces.
Look forward to next weekend now....
Thanks. Can I ask the usual, how tall you are, what size frame, stem length, etc?
I didn't get to call Paul (@Cotic) back on Friday but will do first thing tomorrow.
I'm confuddled by all that tape?
So it stays nice and shiney underneath? Which doesn't really make much sense
Or so you can pull it off and sell it still shiney?
I've a small frame size, 50mm stem, 740mm wide bars 10mm rise and I'm 163cmish tall,
Right. I'm really on the edge of medium and large but think the smaller size will suit the type of riding I'm looking for on the bike.
I will go complete build but swap out for fatbar lites and even have a black/orange charge spoon in 'stock' so looking ok there. Pedals will be my usual fav, Nukeproof electrons.
Thanks for the feedback.
BTW, currently I have a carve expert 29er and a camber fs 26er. Just really looking for a steel ht fun bike that could do longer rides too. Plus ideal bike for shooting my son's GCSE PE mtbing vid as he can borrow the Camber rather than his modded Hardrock if he wishes.
I'm confuddled by all that tape?So it stays nice and shiney underneath? Which doesn't really make much sense
Me too, I never understand preventing a little bit of rubbing that doesn't even look all that bad in person, close up, by covering the frame in tape that looks terrible even from a distance, in a photo.
Presumably it's the prospective resale thing.
I'm confuddled by all that tape?
So it stays nice and shiney underneath? Which doesn't really make much senseMe too, I never understand preventing a little bit of rubbing that doesn't even look all that bad in person, close up, by covering the frame in tape that looks terrible even from a distance, in a photo.
Presumably it's the prospective resale thing.
I don't like the rub marks that shoes can leave, but then I am not looking at the tape when riding 🙂 and it does mean it stays in fairly good shape should I want to sell it sometime in the future.
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My Soul is gloriously orange and unprotected (bar the Cotic branded neoprene chainstay protector) with a varied selection of missing bits of paints - though ironically very few visible marks where you've taped! 😉 When I washed it for the first time in months I found a surprising amount of chips around the BB and bottom of the down tube - rock roost?!
Goes out to tape up BB and bottom of down tube............... 😉
Forge197 you should contact http://www.invisiframe.co.uk/ they have done a Cotic Soul kit for both 26 and 27.5, really nice, cut-aways for cable bosses for top tube and seat stays etc.
Anyway the Soul 27.5!
Took the 27.5 (the horrible black and red bike) for a ride Sunday over Tunnel hill area, and I really liked it, still a fun, flick-able, bike like a 26 but I did feel it rolled better over roots etc. easy to pop off things, get/keep the front wheel up and still easy to pump the trail, holds speed It handled Tarts drop, drop in surgery with easy (just like the soul 26)
Today (Monday) I rode my local trails (Erlestoke) with a couple of others and swapped between the Soul 27.5 and a Solaris (both large)riding some of the same trails on both bikes. I rode a the Solaris mostly as the other guy was enjoying riding the 27.5, (he rides a 29" normally and is over 6ft)
It confirmed I not that fussed on 29" bikes, the ones I ridden in the past are nice but found it doesn't suit my riding style and type of riding I mainly do (and height) just found I had to easy off and wait for the bike to turn in corners (if that makes sense) I also found it hard to get the front wheel up and hold it up. but I it did roll over things well and maybe a little more grip when you get the thing lent over.
Thanks MTB Rob will take a look, nice little write up 🙂
Good overview. Sounds like what I'm looking for!
Nothing against my 29er either. I'd just like to do the steel HT thing again but this time lighter than my previous one! (Kona Blink @ 33lb)
Normal Man mines 28lbs with a cheap heavy wheelset and dropper post, reckon 25/26 is doable with some choice parts if that's your want 🙂
Thanks forge.
Sounds ideal. If I could hit 26 or just under then happy days.
I've left a message for Paul, so just waiting on a ring back now.
Yeah the 27.5 with pikes (140), droper post, hope arch, XT groupset, hope brakes, USE bars/stem more set up for hard hitting trail riding came in at 27.53lb (12.49kg) and the soul 26 with X fusion 140 forks DLA, slx gropset, xt brake XLC bars/stem/post came in at 27.38 (12.42kg)
I do know of souls coming in at 24lb/25lb with more xc style kit (sorter travel forks/wheel etc)
Sounds promising Rob.
Do you work for Cotic?
I would go for, as mentioned before, complete build then swap out bars, saddle, grips, seat collar. Then add my fav pedals / bottle cage. Then go ride!
Just another thought / question @ Rob.
How tall are you? As you mentioned a large frame.
I am looking at a medium, although my 29er is a 19". Ride / reach is fine but standover could be better. Plus aesthetically the front end just looks too high.
Now I'm thinking also a Solaris in medium might be worth considering too.
Any idea of weight difference? My Carve, with minimal changes, is 26.5 lb.
HI Normal Man,
No I don't work for Cotic, but I do sell them, so most would say I got a invested interest etc. 🙂
[b]BUT[/b] I have/ridden Cotic's some new(at full RRP) some 2nd hand and also knowing Kate and Ian Potter at AQR who do a lot of testing for Cotic, before Starting FTR & selling them, so it is a product I really believe in!
I am 5'11, I have riding the medium 29" before and didn't get on with the size as I like a longish TT. I found stand over is fine on large.
The Med Solaris, XT Fox forks, Halo wheels (no pedals)26.70lb (12.11kg)
Large Solaris Xt, X fusion Slide forks, Acrh wheels (no Pedals) 27.86lb 12.60KG
If you can get yourself to Wiltshire this week before end of Sunday I still have the medium and Large Solaris that can be tested as well and the new Soul 27.5.
The Solaris have to be back next week as Cotic are doing some sort of event on the 7th of June.
Rob, thanks for the info. Very helpful.
I'm 5'11" (and a half!) I was aiming for a medium Soul 275 and Paul seemed to agree. It is for messing in the woods but also some longer rides, etc.
If I go with the Soul 275, my first choice bar the long wait (long to me as I'm impatient lol), then I'd keep my Carve for family rides / tow path stuff and maybe even a bikepacking trip.
I've got a busy week so don't think I'll get to you but thanks for the offer.
Sooo....anyone weighed a medium 27.5 frame yet?
Also - Yes, it was a Sherwood Pines demo day with the Potters and Paul (wheelie & endo God) that decided me and my bruv on our Souls a few years back. We just hoped some of their skills and general Coolness would rub off on us LOL.
Ashamed to admit that I'm an old soft git and I've been on a full-sus and a Ti 29er hardtail recently, but I'm keen to try the new Soul. My Ti Salsa is real scarey downhill if there are any bumpy bits.
When is this Earlstoke demo?
Can't help with that Tim but can add I did order one. 8 weeks approx wait, which is already killing me! (yes, such a first world problem!)
Tim the Elrestoke demo has been and passed.
BUT we (Finely Tuned Ride) do have a large soul 27.5 that can be demoed
mine arrived this week from 18bikes (thanks guys) slowly building up hopefully ready for the weekend. It is medium, and im 5'9'' and just sitting on it feels very comfortable with a short stem. Will post pics and weight when done
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Some pics of my finished Cotic 275 build. Its a medium and im 5'9 and it seems little large, but for what I want it is perfect.
Riding it in anger this weekend - but first signs are brilliant!
Look forward to reading your first ride feedback.
Hope you can get the pics working.
I'm pleased to hear the medium sounds like it comes up bigger (from my point of view / height) as it was a slight concern. My dad is 5'9 and my son (14) 5'10 and they ride a 17" KHS and 17.5" Spesh respectively. Both
bikes are 26ers but feel too small for me.
hopefully this link will work better
https://www.flickr.com/photos/125204655@N07/
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cough hoses cough 😀
Ant, XT brakes are dead easy to shorten, normally not even requiring a bleed afterwards, do a search there's a 'how to' somewhere. Go on, give it a go, you won't have much time for tweaking your new pride and joy soon....
far too lazy for that, but please feel free to do it for me mate!
Buy 2 of these...
...bring your bike over and I will 😀
Looks great!
Really makes me want one all the more now.
Some pics of my finished Cotic 275 build. Its a medium and im 5'9 and it seems little large, but for what I want it is perfect.
Is that a layback post? This version of the Soul is designed around inline posts, so it might feel a bit stretched with that post. Shift your saddle forward a bit in the cradle if you can.
This is torture you lot, but keep the pictures coming.
I now have everything needed for the build. Just waiting patiently on a frame now! 🙄
I will be able to add my pictures to this thread eventually.
Hi Kelvin, no it's a Joplin dropper post, so totally inline. I'm used to the size now and it's perfect!
That Joplin has layback.
Looks sweet though.
I stand corrected, hadn't realised layback also refers to clamp position.
Nice ride this morning and it fits like a dream. Climbs like a goat!
Nice build Antop34, they do climb well, just like every cotic I ridden!
yes shorten the hoses, there should be new olive and insert with the brakes when you got them.