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Hello
Considering either of these two For next bike ( frame only ) just wondering about opinions , I reckon the cotic might be a bit weighty not sure about the airdrop.
Will be built up with mid range stuff ( zee,xt,stans flow wheels and some pikes. Just wondering what people’s views / experiences are?
Cheers Graeme
I have just gone from an airdrop edit to a rocketmax, I did test the 27.5 rocket as well but the 29er was just too good! Is it the v.3 edit you are looking at or an older one? The new edit looks very tasty! I loved my edit I just ended up with a bit more of a race bike in the 29er. Can you get near to demo them?
Both sick bikes. Similar in weight to be honest. What kind of riding do you do the most?
I’d add the Bird AM160 (used to be called the Aeris 145 LT) to your list too. I couldn’t justify the cost of the Cotic at the time (although they are very nice) and having ridden the Edit and Aeris 145 back to back I preferred the Aeris. It was a bit more poppy and lively.
Not to say the Edit was bad, just so didn’t gel with it the same.
I was at Flyup 417 last night and there was a Cotic demo day on - the Rockets did look very nice though.
I think most enduro type bikes are going to be 30-32lbs ish in weight unless you go very expensive carbon with bling components when you might sneak under 30lbs.
Cheers, will mostly be riding quantocks and the odd uplift / bike park day . The airdrop seems extremely good value compared to the cotic just wondering if there would be a significant weight difference, love the look of the cotic though. Good shout about the bird , and they are reasonably close by to get one to demo
You can demo Bird at Swinley and Cwmcarn - although it’s cheaper at Swinley I think. You can also go to Bird HQ that way and have a good chat with them.
Ed at Airdrop is also good to go and chat to - it’s just you need to get to Sheffield to do that. I had a customer meeting up that way so managed to combine it with that. I did like the look of the Edit in raw - looked very purposeful.
I don't think the weight difference would be huge, Haven't ridden the Rocket, but heard nothing but good things about it. Have ridden the Older V1 Edit and it was an amazingly capable bike, did me Alps Utah, and thrown around Calderdale and never missed a beat. rock solid, just needed one change of it's bearings in 3 years.
I don't think you'd be disappointed with either TBH, and both Cy and Ed are great and easy to deal with and get advice from.
If you can try to demo both bikes and see which one you prefer. I've owned both the Edit v1 and the previous generation Rocket and they were both good bikes, weight was pretty similar. Both companies were great to deal with too.
My edit was 34lb with a solid build kit, zee, xt dt Swiss, coil shock and
My rocketmax is maybe a touch over that with the same build kit but 29er. Sonothing to be thought about
Cotic are brilliant with demos. I arranged a private demo at the fod. Got 3 of us and we chose the bikes we wanted to ride. Definitely worth a message to them.
Ed and James at airdrop are also fantastic to speak to and deal with although the demo is in Sheffield
I wanted to test a Bird as well but just didn’t get around to it.
If you do sort a demo with cotic try the rocketmax. I was sticking with 27.5 until I rode that bike!
FWIW I wouldn’t worry about weight. A mate has a full carbon specialized enduro that is over 35lb, he flies on it up and down
I've got a Rocket Max (non Longshot) and though it's no lightweight it not a drag either. OK I'm not looking to fly up hills, for me its all about conserving energy on the up's to enjoy the downs, so happy to stick it is a silly low granny gear and just kick back and saunter up to the top. Then it comes into its own on the downs - and the flat flow stuff. I've test ridden a few bikes now, carbon and horrendously expensive and none have felt that much lighter than my Rocket, certainly not that you'd notice out on the trail, and definitely they've not ridden better so not sure what you're actually paying all that additional £3k+ for?? I'm sure the Airdrop and Bird equivalents are equally as good...they're all much of a muchness at the end of the day. I picked up my RocketMax with a discount as they were purging old stock as the Longshot bikes were coming in so jumped while they were a proper bargain, but I'd happily pay full price for one - definitely justified - an £1800 frame (so £2500 - £3k build) that is just as good as a £3k frame (£5k give or take a bit build or even more), they're a bargain. Also Cotic are selling off ex demo bikes at the moment. I'd have one in a heartbeat if in the market...they're so solid there is no way they've been abused. Some aesthetic battle scars I'm sure, but that's just a 'patenter' and adds to the effect! these are no garage queen's...they designed and built to be ridden and abused and you can't do that without picking up a few blemishes along the way.
I would just like to say that I am of exactly of the same opinion of wobbliscott and done the same and got the pre longshot on discount. The only thing I would say I have upgraded the x fusion shock which truly transformed the ride. Also you really cannot feel the weight on the trail and on the technical ups. I am thinking next year I will upgrade to the longshot frame.