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LOL WTF… i ride at least 2-3 times a week outdoors, in various locations from local to woods, just just about any trail place down south and everywhere else. I’d argue i ride more trails in a given month than most who post on the forum. In the last 4 weeks i’ve ridden Stile Cop, Cannock, FoD (3 times) Surrey Hills, 417 Flyup, Rogate, we’ve also been to Hopton (but i couldn’t ride). Plus local rides, woods, trails, Ridgweway.
Yep agreed. You put me right on this before. 🙂 You do indeed ride loads.
But you like the other bit even more! Go on, admit it 🙂
But you like the other bit even more! Go on, admit it
Not going to argue fella, I love tweaking, doing, testing, trying
Arguably if I put that time in even outside the house learning manuals, wheelies, etc I'd be a better rider. But hey, I am who I am.
Well after reading more reviews and info in going to do as you all suggest and not get this.
It's a chunk of change to throw in for what may not be the right bike. So may be prudent to listen to you lot.
Given it was up for £3k and you were going to give them the Trek and £2k I think that’s prudent given it’s too small.
I was putting in £1000 not £2000.
If it makes you feel better the Trek is a lot better looking than that. A lot
Left field suggestion: can you put an Angleset on the trek,plus increase the travel of the fork by changing the airspringm I don't know the detailed spec of the trek so don't know if that's possible,but if it is it would probably make quite a change to the character of the bike for minimal outlay,and would be reversible if you didn't like it.
Left field suggestion: can you put an Angleset on the trek
I made it 0.5 Deg slacker which you can notice, anything more gets complicated with the knock block headset which is tricky to remove as the fork would smash the frame to bits.
But really I couldn't make it slack enough and long enough travel for it to be something I'd want to try and get down certain things.
I'm going to just go have a few days normality, without driving, riding, anything really.
Well, apart from Zwift riding.
There's still this Mega https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3457006/ the guy will straight swap the Trek.
But for now, I've just lost the will to think on it all.
Get the Mega
don’t get the mega
😉
@fasthaggis - 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Buy whichever bikes you fancy. Every bike has a few that break, I’m sure that Pinkbike were just unlucky to b3 5he one# that broke it.
Make sure you check out that area of the frame thoroughly when you go to exchange just in case.
We’re all aware you ride more than most (especially me nowadays), just enjoy it as one day your kid will grow up and you’ll be back to riding alone/with old gits.
Good luck
PS - those Megas were nice and won’t cost you extra. What hav3 you got to lose.
That mega is a honking colour, no way I'd swap that for that nice Trek.
Punt the Trek, take the hit...get what you really want, in a nice colour and preferably one that fits. Job jobbed, life too short.
I think selling the trek frame only and then buying an alloy long travel frame to put all the bits on would be a good approach here. Whack a longer air spring in the 36 and jobs a good un.
Bird Aeris 9 / Transition Spire / Rocket max / Mega 290 / Vitus Sommet (seems bargainous at £1500 at the moment with an X2 etc
Bird Aeris 9
Looks like now is the time to get a secondhand AM9 frame as the new Aeris 9s seem to be getting delivered and people are upgrading.
I think selling the trek frame only and then buying an alloy long travel frame to put all the bits on would be a good approach here. Whack a longer air spring in the 36 and jobs a good un.
Bird Aeris 9 / Transition Spire / Rocket max / Mega 290 / Vitus Sommet (seems bargainous at £1500 at the moment with an X2 etc
As much as i like tinkering that does somewhat restrict things because with the Trek you've got a Dub crankset, so the new one needs DUB, you've also got the seatpost which ideally needs to be the same diameter, then you have the obvious fact that
"Buy what you want" doesn't really work because i'm not really in a position that i know the answer to that question until i try something. The buy what you want was the Bird Aether7, but that didn't work out.... Then it was the G170, which i liked but arguably i like the Trek more. So what i want, i have absolutely no idea... Other than the fact it's a skills compenstator/safety blanket. That's the criteria really. It doesn't need to be an XC beast, it doesn't need to do 40' gaps, but it does ideally need to give me a bit more margin for error/confidence. Of course i need to work on that within myself and my riding too, but with the booked/planned coaching i'm trying to get there with that too.
I just see that next year we'll end up in Dyfi, Fort William, Risca etc.... Plus add in there the Southern/Haibike enduros and whatever other Enduro races we do and if possible i want a 1 bike to rule them all type scenario.
If that's completely impossible, then sure, i have to come to terms with that. But for now i'm still throwing ideas around my brain.
The Mega guy sent me a Whatsapp and he's taken a cash deal on the Mega, so that's now off the table completely. The only thing on the table is sadly an XL Slash, if it were an L, it'd already be in the garage.
Just for some more light entertainment/faceplants, i have considered this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125566310044
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Which is large... that would make a great bike for the tough stuff but would stay alongside the Fuel. But that brings us into a whole other world of crazy as it's then getting too many bikes as we'd have
3 GT Furys
1 Trek Fuel
1 (lads enduro)
1 Liv ebike
1. Raleigh turbo/Belgium
Which considering Mrs Weeksy rode the Liv once this year... is all getting a little insane.
I think a DH bike is always too much unless you ride exclusively at DH venues(and I don't mean just uplift). They're a very specific tool for a specific job and not great apart from that. There are plenty of 180mm travel bikes being made that are still pedalable and reasonably light that have the option of upping the shock pressure to ride more like a trail bike. A DH bike will always be a DH bike.
Interesting that the GT on eBay still has the reflectors, dork disc and original pedals.
it’s then getting too many bikes
Is that even a thing??? 😂😂
I think a DH bike is always too much unless you ride exclusively at DH venues(and I don’t mean just uplift). They’re a very specific tool for a specific job and not great apart from that. There are plenty of 180mm travel bikes being made that are still pedalable and reasonably light that have the option of upping the shock pressure to ride more like a trail bike. A DH bike will always be a DH bike.
That's the RM Slayer then 😃🤣😃🤣😃🤣😃
On the dub front the whole point is the crankset is the same regardless of the bike it’s going on. It’s just the bb itself that changes. So the trek is pressfit but say you went for a frame with a bsa screw in bb then a dub bsa screw in bb should work with your current cranks.
Most seat posts are either 30.9 or 31.6mm so I don’t think that’s much of a drama. All steerers fit a tapered fork and most bikes have a boost rear end (other than the odd few than run stupid super boost like evil or Saracen or pivot).
You’re always fiddling with bikes so I don’t see a frame swap as much of a drama…….
I’m with Joe on this - cranks is simple swap, just change bottom bracket. Droppers are 31.6 or 30.9 and even if you have the former and need the latter, a new brand x dropper is around £100.
I’d add privateer to the frame only options, or the Saracen Ariel
In fact this for £2k frame and forks is insane value and in large…
https://www.saracen.co.uk/collections/enduro/products/ariel-60-elite-frame-kit-sample-unused
Did you look at that large slash frame and fork on pinkbike that I mentioned in the other thread? Sounds perfect! Swap the bits over and sell the fuel frame... simple 🙂
I'm not the seller btw! Just sounds exactly the type of bike you're looking for, in your size....
I’d love an excuse to get a bike like this but to be honest my Levo (29” 160/157mm) isn’t far off and and my 160mm 29” hardtail hits a nice spot (although max speed is limited by the rear). And I don’t have enough time visiting gnarly trails.
I’d definitely want a 29” front wheel, 170mm+ forks, ~160mm+ rear travel, enough reach, plenty of stack height too (tall head tube and/or bars) and long chainstays. I think long chainstays make such a difference in making bikes like this easier to ride, there’s much less need to get over the front (which is hard to do if you’re not the most confident rider) and you can just stay centered and carve/drift the turns.
There are loads to choose from but I’ve hardly heard a bad word about the Nukeproof Giga and for a more niche the Banshee Titan ticks all the boxes (if you can get a big enough dropper on it).
Rode a NP Giga a few weeks ago and was not only impressed with how well it handled going fast over rough stuff and taking big hits (pretty much what we expected), but also super impressed with how good it was at pedalling uphill as well. Definitely the kind of bike you sound that you are after. And it fits a water bottle in the frame.
Thanks again for the thoughts fellas. I'm just honestly not fancying a frame swap. I just fancy a nice bike swap, happy to throw money in for right bike too. But nothing seems to be quite working.
The Mega sold, the RockyM dealer went all quiet, I've tried to buy an Alu Slayer which is advertised locally for £1600 but been ignored. There's a fella who wants to trade for a Slash, but it's an XL. However he's not a million miles away and may be worth a visit and a sit.
Other than that, I'm just kinda waiting to see what happens, so it's spotless and hanging up
Thurs is FoD and Sun is Rogate, so it'll be filthy if it doesn't swap before that.
OK, buy what we want then
That's a plan!
Honestly if you thought the aether 7 in large was too long (505mm reach from memory) then the XL slash (516mm reach in low - 521mm reach in high) is going to be even longer. Albeit the ratio of chainstays probably works a little better as the aether 7 has short ones and the trek is a bit longer at the back.
Frame swap seems an obviously easier solution in terms of money and getting something more appropriate than all the odd sizes / bikes coming up.
Frame swap
I'm confused. What exactly do you want the bike for? Are you hucking 20m road gaps? Entering rampage?
I’m confused. What exactly do you want the bike for? Are you hucking 20m road gaps? Entering rampage?
Safety mechanism. I'll be racing Enduro next year as well as going to some trail centers. Whilst I'm sure all the Superstars here can get down on an 80mm HT, I cannot.so I want something more capable of saving my backside
I would have thought that the idea of riding a massive heavy bike that picks up speed much faster and is a lot harder to handle would be less than ideal for someone who has massive doubts about their riding competence?
Ebay New 161 frame under 1200
Worth a look. Mint.
Thats what we used to do(when I had leg muscles, lungs that work etc). New frame and hang onto it whatever you previously had.
Too many bikes now are poor kit, which does affect the ride performance. So its to hard to judge what somethings going to ride like. Hence I suppose faffing over .05 of a degree here or there. X millimeter difference.
Me,@kryton57 , @davros all think you should get an Orbea Occam
He’ll be able to have a got on mine in a month or so :D. seriously though for what Weeksy does it’s probably a Rallon he wants, but if it rides like a bigger version of the Occam it could be great for him - trail taught going up, compact and balanced, opens up and swallows tech on the way down.
He’ll be able to have a got on mine in a month or so
I'll have bought and sold 3 by then
Just on that Saracen ariel 60 mentioned on the previous page - the reach on the large is the same as the Aether 7 you had I think - the geometry on those is quite extreme. And it’s probably superboost rear if it’s like the Ariel 30 as I was considering one of those when I bought my Sentinel.
That privateer 161 looks good though.
Another thing to bear in mind - if you’re not a bendy young person and/or a super confident rider, you will need tall riser bars to feel comfortable on most longer reach bikes. And if you want a bike that’s good at going fast and keeping you safe, long reach helps a lot.
Had this offered today.. 2019 Slash
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325381466000
Right idea, but a little lacking with 160/150 and a 65.5 head it doesn't really give me anything over the Fuel.
Also this in a swap
https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3460784/
Rallon, XL. Which ticks many boxes, even the XL aspect is only 10mm longer than mine
If nothing else, I'm finding it interesting what people want to trade from/to.
I have to admit, the Slayer you lot think is too small is still tempting me lots. If it was closer to me anyway
“Rallon, XL. Which ticks many boxes, even the XL aspect is only 10mm longer than mine”
That looks good! Seat tube length may be an issue though. How tall are you? Leg length?
That looks good!
Call me crazy, but I told the guy not to do it. Looking at his history he's bought and sold 2 Large bikes because they were small, as well as 3-4 XLs for various reasons. I think it'd be too small and he then confirmed that he thought his Rallon was a bit small for him. But the Trek is smaller than the Rallon. Lol.
I've kinda given up at the moment, the Trek is on eBay and pinkbike and I'll see if anything comes up in the next few days, if not, it's pretty likely I'll be on my Trek at FoD and Rogate later in the week.
“How tall are you? Leg length?”
And the answers to this are?
6'0
32-33" ish