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Wow.


 
Posted : 07/02/2010 11:00 pm
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jesus H christ on a fu*$in bike,they look well dodgy mate. whoever sold them to you should give you your money back, i was looking for some forks , but think i will stay away from the classfieds on here to be honest.


 
Posted : 07/02/2010 11:01 pm
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well the crown/steerers of 26 inch reba's fit so finding a donor pair shud be easy, saying that i have a spare set of 29er rebas in bits..may sell


 
Posted : 07/02/2010 11:24 pm
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swampi - ygm


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:49 am
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Jesus, it always suprises me how dumb some people can be. If he had crashed and died after his botched attempts he would have been in line for a darwin award

So he sold them on to me and if I had crashed and died what award would of it been then?

I'm going to ring the seller later. I've a good mind to tell him that they snapped and I ended up in hospital, and then see what he says.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:53 am
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I'd love to know the logic of how the steerer ended up like that.

Ps. Claiming to sell for another party is the oldest trick in the book to avoid admitting full knowledge later.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:56 am
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Scary what some people think is ok, reminds me of a frame we had in a few years ago, in an attempt to fit a short steerer, they'd hacksawed through the top of the headtube(at about 10 degrees slant).At least they didn't try selling it on though.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:02 am
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I've battered my rebas and the steerer is all smooth like new.

Personally I would not have fitted that fork and sent back straight away.

Classifieds is getting ruined by a few muppets recently.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:14 am
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Classifieds is getting ruined by a few muppets recently.

Disagree. I've had a few incidents over the past year or two. Settled off-forum.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:19 am
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Zaskar-i think from previous posts he bought a bike complete rather than the forks so would not necc have seen the steerer earlier.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:20 am
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If the OP actually ever gets in contact with the seller - Is this going to end up with the seller saying he had also never removed the forks from the frame & also bought it is as an 2nd-hand assembly?


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:27 am
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It does make me wonder how people end up going from 'that looks a bit of a tight fit' to 'I know we'll grind the steerer down' without ever thinking 'it can't be that everyone has to do this maybe there's another way to do it?'.

I do hope the OP gets a result on this (and the bike-chain appear to be offering to help) but I'm not hopeful.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:34 am
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Is there no way STW can block user IP's?


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:35 am
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That's diabolical, possibly the dodgiest thing I've seen on here.. apart from the welded up Heckler that somebody tried to sell.

Is there no way STW can block user IP's?

I don't think that really helps.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 9:37 am
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flippin heck. you're gonna need a [i]really[/i] big bottle of loctite. 🙂

that's quite staggering. don't know if i'd be angry, or just really thankful that i'd investigated before needing a wheelchair.
hope you can get some redress.

i've never really liked the idea of sh forks unless i knew the seller personally.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 10:30 am
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Del-(personal experience) I wont buy anymore secondhand forks from STW. Not a chance.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 10:32 am
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Just to clear things up Allport advertised them for a friend, that's not to say he didn't know about the damage. I met the actually seller and I have now found his phone number so I will be contacting him tonight.
Unfortunately he is 150 miles away so I can't appear on his doorstep.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 2:44 pm
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Where is he - I reckon STW could put together a rent-a-mob 😉

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Posted : 08/02/2010 2:52 pm
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I have bought two forks off here and both were fine.

One collected in persona and the other from a regular poster.

I think that is the key - buy from regular posters and you are fine.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 2:53 pm
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@TandemJeremy

One collected in persona...

Who did you go as? 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 2:56 pm
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Oh, I should say that I've bought and sold loads on here (including several sets of sus forks) and not had a problem yet.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 2:57 pm
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here is he - I reckon STW could put together a rent-a-mob

I did think about paying a visit and taking Agency Scum along for a 'talk' 😈


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:01 pm
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I just don't understand why you would need to angle grind the steerer?

Horrific 😯


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:06 pm
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THREAD OF THE MONTH!!

The crown race isn't for a 1" steerer is it? I really dont understand how anyone would be so stupid to do that to a pair of forks.
Shame for the OP, hope you get it sorted out.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:09 pm
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my fork histroy off STW:

manitou minutes: borked internals
Two sets of bombers: worn bushings, £30 to fix, but still anoying that I seem to buy them a week before they fail.

Off SDH:
manitou minutes: should have learnt my lesson from the fist set


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:17 pm
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@cheers drive,
if you're up sh1t creek mate I've all the parts for a hard nut hardtail you can borrow for a couple of weeks.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:35 pm
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He lives in Rougeley thats not far from me and I have some bombers if you need to borrow them to 'own him'


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:44 pm
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if you're up sh1t creek mate I've all the parts for a hard nut hardtail you can borrow for a couple of weeks.

Thanks for the offer mate but I've still got the PA and Zesty so it won't stop me riding.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 3:53 pm
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The crown race isn't for a 1" steerer is it? I really dont understand how anyone would be so stupid to do that to a pair of forks.

Hmm sounds like a reasonable theory there !!


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:22 pm
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Hmm sounds like a reasonable theory there !!

This person shouldnt hold knives, apply for a firearms licence, work with any sort of animal, be in charge of machinery or be allowed off the sunshine bus without a carer or responsible adult present.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:31 pm
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Thats an Air Ambulance shout waiting to happen that is.!!!

If he agrees to refund I'd cut them in half before posting, in case the wally tries to sell them on again.

I_Ache...Was that Rougeley or Rugeley ?


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:39 pm
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Sorry don't get you there hora do you mean the seller or me? ❓ I was also wondering why you would need to angle grind the steerer down - either to fit a crown race thats too small or maybe it was siezed or head set/stem too small? 😐


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:51 pm
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The seller dummy! 🙄


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:52 pm
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OK 😉 wasn't clean as you quoted my quote 8)


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 4:53 pm
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Wow! That picture beggars belief.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 5:05 pm
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Gotta say, I'm stunned at that this, never seen anything like it!

Read the post this morning and as I scrolled down I thought, mmmm, wrong crown race, broken crown race, someone damaged the steerer removing the race - no, how ... then when I got to the picture I nearly fell off my chair.

Hope you get this sorted out and thank god nothing happened to you riding that thing.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 5:38 pm
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In 20 years of repairing bikes I have never seen something so badly done as this steerer tube & I have seen some pretty bad things done to bikes & parts

Accident waiting to happen, lucky you noticed a problem & delved deeper to find the issue

Seller needs to refund, no question.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 5:43 pm
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Jeez - i am wanting to know how/what/why that was done to the steerer?? Beggars belief!


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 7:08 pm
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cheers_drive, any chance we can have more photos.... with a suitable measuring device adjacent to give us a sense of scale?

Maybe it'll stop me making dumbass statements (1.5 - 1.125 when i meant otherwise)and people far cleverer than i picking up on it.

Can you post results after you've rang the perp? We need to know....


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 7:21 pm
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I've just phoned the seller and he said that he had never taken the forks off and had never noticed any knocking sound in the 14 months he had owned it and he had bought it secondhand off ebay.
He didn't sound overly concerned and I basically said that if bought them like that he was very lucky not to have ended up in hospital and he sold them on knowingly he was an idiot.
Anyway the upshot of it is surprise surprise he not admitting anything 👿

Oh and I did what I should of done before buying and checked Allport's history - 7 post ever, all to sell something. Lesson learnt.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:15 pm
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cheers_drive I wouldnt leave it there. Do you have his address/full name etc?

Hes admitted knowing theres a problem by saying 'owned for 14months'. NO one could ride such a shagged steerer without noticing play in 14months.

Ps. Where is he based?


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:19 pm
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Might be difficult to accept but you don't stand much chance of getting anywhere with the seller. He'll say they were perfect when he sold them, that you've bodged the steerer yourself, that those are a different pair of forks etc, etc. You will find it difficult to prove anything, and it's really just your word against his. Not very encouraging I know, but if he says it's nowt to do with him then I think you're just going to have to accept that you've been ripped off.

Edit:- Hora - how does owning the bike for 14 months amount to an admission that the seller knew there was a problem? Don't follow the reasoning there.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:22 pm
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Jenga - I'm a realist

Hora - He's in Rugely near Cannock I have his first name and I think his address is in my sat nav but i'm in Bristol so it would cost me a lot in fuel to talk about this face to face. Before you ask I was passing that way anyway when I bought them.


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:29 pm
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small claim


 
Posted : 08/02/2010 8:30 pm
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I've got some 29er tora raceSL solo air upper assembly crown etc.. if you want them. You can just add them to hopefully not ****ed lowers and at least you'll have a usable fork, albeit a wee bit heavier, than a reba.

drop me an email if that's any use to you.

cheers
taz


 
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