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Elfinsafety - Member
Do you really?Blimey, and there's me thinking you spent most of your time on here...
I was meaning Scots law 😎
You busy just now with the scribbles?
I was meaning Scots law
Ah, that might explain a few things actually.
I notice you were scornful of my 'armchair lawyering' earlier in this thread. I freely admit I'm no expert, but I was trying to find what sort of offence (if any) may be committed in this case, and could only find something under the Theft Act 1968. I'm happy to be shown what offence (if any) may have been committed in this case. I'm sure you can agree, the length of time involved might suggest the possibility of unlawful behaviour, no? IE; a 'reasonable' amount of time has come and gone, surely?
Why not just go round to his gaff and ask for your money back?
Why not just go round to his gaff and ask for your money back?
You have a lot to learn, young padawan.
STW exists for the very benefit of those who like to moan but take no action about the cause of their complaint. It is, if you will, the epitome of British grumbling technique.
he's a soft southerner who rides pink bikes, i believe most of the sheep lovers are taciturn dour faced northerners who wouldn't dream of visiting the gay capital of the south.
Got mail off Jo: "was posted this morning"
IE; a 'reasonable' amount of time has come and gone, sure
No, it's only a civil matter unless you can show intent for something criminal - would prob be fraud in this case. In scots law anyway.
They have laws in Scotland?
[i]Got mail off Jo: "was posted this morning"[/i]
and the baying pack are forced to move on.
Great news everyone. I've managed to track down some 'mint sauce' inspired sheep key rings with the added functionality of being stress relievers.
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Got mail off Jo: "was posted this morning"
But maybe only as a result of this thread?
[i]But maybe only as a result of this thread? [/i]
or maybe as a result of him having received the items from the person making them, finishing the other work he had previously indicated he had to do, packaging and addressing the items and then visiting a post office?
But, yes, the 'as a result of this thread' argument may do more to make people feel vindicated in their vitriol.
Thing is for my 40th, my Mum and Dad gave me a little silver ankh, very modest in price, but they commissioned it as they just could not find one to buy in a shop. Can't have taken more than 2 or 3 weeks from them sending the silversmith some photos of ankhs that I liked. The OP was one year ago!
or maybe as a result of him having received the items from the person making them, finishing the other work he had previously indicated he had to do, packaging and addressing the items and then visiting a post office?
I think some of the comments have been a bit OTT but the delay and lack of the courtesy of an explanation seems pretty inexcusable to be honest. Unless you know Jo / exactly what's going on (and by the looks of things that'd surprise me, seems no-one really has any idea other than he's taken an age to post them) then defending him seems at best equally as daft as those shouting about criminality and court orders.
I always wondered how Jo was going to get the hoards of sheep loving public off his back.
This is perfect, just perfect. He can go back to being a confused hermit now :O)
Happy Christmas everyone
Tim
Can't wait for the postman to deliver and the first drooling pic showing the non-buyers what we have missed............ closely followed by the first posting in the classifieds 'just in time for Christmas'.
Class action? In the UK?
In the post - Woohoo
Just read the whole thread for the first time, kinda assumed there'd be a delivered item and a pic by the end...
a year to deliver something with little or no communication in between.
I didn't realise being a doe-eyed sycophant with a penchant for cartoons removes your rights as a consumer.
My jewelery has just arrived and very nice it is too
pic to prove or we wont believe you....
😯
It is over a year that he has had your money and yet no one took him to small claims court 😯 - I never realised it was a whole YEAR.
Why did you put with this for whole year SHOCKING
I'm at work so I'm afraid no pic possible. Its small and pink, came in a box sealed with an off cut of innertube in a jiffi bag and also had one or two little extra items like sweets. Hopefully a few others will be getting there's when they return home or the postman arrives and hopefully they'll be able to post a pic.
You'll just have to take my word for it.
Apols Paul - GLO is the thing (Should stick to Scots law!)
OK so mine turned up in the post a few minutes ago, it's very nicely made, gents may find the chain a little short though. I don't know why it had to come to all this, it really is a shame, at least he sent them in the end...
Can't have taken more than 2 or 3 weeks from them sending the silversmith some photos of ankhs that I liked.
yeah.. but the guy isn't a silversmith.. he's an artist who drew a design for a silversmith to work from..
the reason for him ending up with the jewellery's despatch becoming his responsibility has managed to elude me somewhere along the line.. and I can't waste any time reading through this thread to find out..
It is over a year that he has had your money and yet no one took him to small claims court - I never realised it was a whole YEAR.
Why did you put with this for whole year SHOCKING
the way I've understood it is that it's been a whole year since the idea was conceived.. emails sent.. contact made.. project developed.. designed.. finalised.. payments made.. manufactured.. not unreasonable when you put it like that..
but I'm probably wrong about that too..
from what I've read Jo actually had the items a fortnight but other commitments delayed postage.
Unless he'd spent 2 weeks actually dead then that's not a reasonable delay, especially when you consider there was no contact with the [s]poor deluded saps[/s] waiting customers in that time.
Jo has apologised in his email, which is fair enough. I think he could have just sent an update every so often and people would have understood though.
Unless he'd spent 2 weeks actually dead then that's not a reasonable delay, especially when you consider there was no contact with the poor deluded saps waiting customers in that time.
yar
from what I've read Jo actually had the items a fortnight but other commitments delayed postage.
From what's been posted on this thread - he's had them over a month
from what I've read Jo actually had the items a fortnight but other commitments delayed postage
Yes like cycling, procrastinating and just not caring
So, are orders being taken for next Christmas yet... 😕
What about a special edition for the 2012 Olympics?
Or is that cutting it too fine?
World Cup 2018?
Next passing of Halley's Comet?
Got some arsey direct messages on twitter but long and short of it is the stuff has been posted
kangaroo court in session...
vitriolic commercialism presiding..
do NOT consider the possibility of any human aspect
do NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give the benefit of the doubt
We find the accused GUILTY.. and without furthur notice we shall DAMN to HELL our much loved friend
COURT AJOURNED
he took a bit longer posting out some keyrings than people would have hoped.. he didn't dry bum your Nan for gawds sake!
I might commission Superstar to do a silver key ring.
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yunki - Member
kangaroo court in session...vitriolic commercialism presiding..
do NOT consider the possibility of any human aspect
do NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give the benefit of the doubt
We find the accused GUILTY.. and without furthur notice we shall DAMN to HELL our much loved friend
COURT AJOURNED
he took a bit longer posting out some keyrings than people would have hoped.. he didn't dry bum your Nan for gawds sake!
Sounds like the British Media.
yunki - TBF his comms with the fanboys were pretty shoddy.
I know I'd have been ****ed off.
yunki - TBF his comms with the fanboys were pretty shoddy.
agreed.. I would have been hacked off too..
..although I get the feeling that the most spiteful comments were from people not involved.. However.. I'm sat on a different ivory tower..
Artistic types have been known for shoddy comms over the years.. especially so the ones that exhibit as much poetic romanticism as we see in Burts cartoons each month..
I couldn't organise a night of drunken revelry in a brewery.. Or efficiently organise a run of merchandising trinkets.. nor could I build a house or fly a plane or build a case for the defence.. my customers (I don't want to say fans) don't expect me to.. because they know that my particular field of expertise is sitting in my studio making pretty things with dreams and paint and stuff..
Maybe yunki you "ok ya" types should learn from the photographers who manage to be arty and professional at the same time.
Nice trolling btw
I agree that photographers can be professional..
I'm just saying the boy may be a wee bit daft.. it happens.. a lot in the art world
(I'm a bit more Shaun Ryder than sloan ranger FWIW )
I am adorned 😀
I'm finding the fact they've actually been posted out and received a bit of an anti-climax TBH
If the recipients do not post pictures of this years must have delayed silver [s]piece of tat[/s] trinket, then they will be next in line for a baying mob 😉