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Experiences of the 2011/2010 versions? Any difference as a similar price?
The new shape Ergo levers are very comfortable and for 2011 Campagnolo has brought back a more positive shift action as everyone hated the 2009/10 type. I race CX with Centaur as it's very reliable and I like the levers.
Cheers AP - £430 for the whole groupset seems good ?
My advice would be to try them both and buy the one that you like the feel of most. I doubt you will have issues with either.
Used the old 105 and then upgraded on my other bike to ultegra which was a vast improvement on the STI's but the new 105 levers look better and more solid? Would have to change my rear wheel however as its no campag!
I have used 6700 Ultegra since it came out and had a 5700 groupset for a while on another bike. The lever shape is very similar but the 105 felt slightly less slick than the Ultegra, although not as much as I would expect considering the price difference. If you already have a Shimano wheel then the 105 groupset would seem the better buy.
I would say that Centaur is more akin to Ultegra level.
That aside, they're both good. Choose the one that you like.
ah, just spotted this:
Would have to change my rear wheel however as its no campag!
If you've already got Shimano then stick with that unless you want to spend more. Campag and Shimano shifters aren't directly cross compatible, neither are rear hubs, cassettes and rear mechs.
However I forgot to mention I would have to re-rim the wheel and its a Mavic Aksium 07' 😉
Oh well Aksiums aren't really worth re-rimming...
(though if you really want to, I do have the necessary freehub body to allow you to use it with a Campag cassette... email in profile 😉
You can get cassettes that run Campag on Shimano freehubs though and they work really well in my experience (in fact my turbo trainer wheel for the last three years has been exactly that and it doesn't exactly see a lot of love maintenance wise !
Worth remebering that Campag is repairable where as Shimano is not - also levers tend to get hurt lots in crashes and ergo levers are cheaper than STI by quite some margin.
Also worth remebering is the shifting feel is totally different between Shimano and campag.
Shimano tends to be quieter and slicker where as campag is noiser but faster and more positive engagement.
I've ridden Campag on the road bike for years now and find it quite difficult going over to SHimano on the MTB hence why I'm swapping to SRAM !
I have 7 speed campag veloce on my commuter and it has the thumb lever and then getting on the Ultegra bike take a few minutes 😉
Yeh shame really as the hubs are still pretty good! BUt I don't think its economical unless you can get a generic rim that would fit?
I did a race on a Shimano bike after several years on Campag. On the attack, I shifted the wrong way as I hit the hill... doh!