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Posting the incriminating evidence yourself on the internet does seem a bit of an elementary mistake.
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The bigger throbbers are those that think rule breaking is acceptable.
Er no. Once more, for the hard of understanding:
The biggest throbbers are the people who voted in the current government in the sure and certain knowledge of what a vile, incompetent, self serving bunch of morons they were.
The biggest throbbers are the people who voted in the current government in the sure and certain knowledge of what a vile, incompetent, self serving bunch of morons they were.
Give it a rest hey... you're not going to change the world, change the government or change who people vote for. You're just coming over as bitter, angry and downright sodding pointless now.
How do you know someone’s called the covid police on fat creations???
I can't see much mileage in TV Detective series any more....
"My suspicions were first aroused by the suspect posting the entire incident online and stating 'hit me up with a like if you think this is awesumz'"
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Er no. Once more, for the hard of understanding:
The biggest throbbers are the people who voted in the current government in the sure and certain knowledge of what a vile, incompetent, self serving bunch of morons they were
Is this how you approach life, by removing all responsibility for your actions through blaming the government and the people who voted for them
Sorry officer, its not my fault i was speeding, its the governments (and the voters) fault for introducing speed limits
It's possible to dislike the governments handling of covid AND stick to the rules.
Sorry officer, i wasn’t speeding because its the governments fault for introducing speed limits
That would be fair if the speed limit was something like "You must travel at a safe speed (without giving a figure), and you can travel faster if your journey is essential (without a list of what counts as essential) and this speed limit will be changing several times throughout the year". The rules are an absolute shambles and have been poorly thought out and implemented. They are easy for some to follow, and hard for others, depending on your circumstances. It is exactly why we regularly have threads like this. Of course there is a degree of personal responsibility but it starts at the top.
@nickjb - I wish people would stop bringing rational, logical debate to what is an internet mauling... 😀
Give it a rest hey… you’re not going to change the world, change the government or change who people vote for. You’re just coming over as bitter,
Yep, I am indeed
angry
Agreed
and downright sodding pointless now.
Probably also true 😄
However my point still stands. It's amazing how the government manage to manipulate the proles to argue amongst themselves, and blame each other; thus allowing them to continue to run the country for their own self interest because nobody is holding them to account.
Is this how you approach life, by removing all responsibility for your actions through blaming the government and the people who voted for them
It's just surreal that you are trying to blame this cluster **** on the people. The government make the choices and set the rules. They own this...
It’s just surreal that you are trying to blame this cluster **** on the people.
Im not, but is it the governments fault that i see big groups of mountain bikers out at the moment whereas i am riding alone? We are all subject to the same rules, irrespective of how badly they have been implemented. Or are you saying the rule of 'you can only exercise with one other person' is too ambiguous and difficult to understand due to the governments handling?
Agreed, it's not blatant rule-ignorers vs. Tory politicians (and voters) to blame.
It's both groups of selfish pricks.
Anyway, enough of this, whats Meghan Markle been doing this week?
However my point still stands. It’s amazing how the government manage to manipulate the proles to argue amongst themselves, and blame each other; thus allowing them to continue to run the country for their own self interest because nobody is holding them to account.
And what exactly does that have to do with Brendan Fairclough going to a shop and painting his frame ?
My point is, we get it, you've told us, you've told us again and again and again, but what are you going to get from ramming it down the forums throats day in day out, post in post out, time and time again ? I'm not arguing your point, but the way in which you're doing it has now become completely and utterly pointless fella.
Keep the politics to politics, keep the other stuff to other threads. The world can continue with both 🙂
Im not, but is it the governments fault that i see big groups of mountain bikers out at the moment whereas i am riding alone? We are all subject to the same rules, irrespective of how badly they have been implemented. Or are you saying the rule of ‘you can only exercise with one other person’ is too ambiguous and difficult to understand due to the governments handling?
No. I'm saying that in the grand scheme of things I couldn't give a shit about groups of mountain bikers meeting outside. It's just a very visible thing for people to blame, but with little impact on death rates.
I DO give a shit about:
Handing T&T to Dido immediately after she ****ed up the previous important task she was trusted with.
The fact that the NHS has been run down for years and so our country doesn't have the basic infra that other countries are using to keep their population more alive.
The fact that Hancock's pub landlord can illegally be given contracts to do X,y,z just because they are buddies.
The fact that Cummings got unbelievable support from the government after he ****ed up. Instead of getting censured he got a live broadcast spot in the Rose Garden FFS.
The fact that Boris sent schools back for one day in January.
Etc etc
These are a things done by the people whose job it is to protect us. And they have all contributed significantly to the stupidly high UK death rate.
But because they aren't as visible as a bunch of mountain bikers out riding in a group, nobody really thinks about them. Just blames the easy option.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/GGko6uK-Fik
what do people think to this then? did he need to travel to wales, drive a high-performance yet fairly basic vehicle on damp roads, breaking traction. Walk round a factory with and without a mask on etc?
It's one of his main sources of income (I'd imagine), it's interesting etc. ultimately, more people die in car crashes than they do bike crashes, so arguably its fairly high risk too, and being on public roads, putting plenty of other people at needless risk.
no comments on his channel from people saying he should stay at home.
what do people think to this then?
Your link doesn't work but I know what video you are talking about. It's funny how we all view things differently - when I watched it a few days ago I actually thought at the time how much Brendog could learn from watching it!
A video done in lockdown that didn't look too much like it was lockdown. Mostly self filmed solo. The bits with someone else in setup with significant distance between them. Not unmasked and up close and personal with someone with very significant health issues.
There is the travelling issue but I didn't have a problem with that in the BD video either - it's their job. My issue was that it was filmed without any real concession or planning for CV-19.
The rules are an absolute shambles and have been poorly thought out and implemented. They are easy for some to follow, and hard for others, depending on your circumstances
Really?
Face coverings must be worn by retail, leisure and hospitality staff working in any indoor area that is open to the public and where they're likely to come into contact with a member of the public
Which circumstances make that difficult to follow?
Which circumstances make that difficult to follow?
Firstly you've quoted one very small part of one rule, that doesn't really apply to this thread, but following the link there is a huge list of exceptions, as well as a healthy dose of "employers should assess the use of face coverings on a case-by-case basis depending on the workplace environment, other appropriate mitigations they have put in place, and whether exemptions or reasonable excuses apply..
what do people think to this then? did he need to travel to wales, drive a high-performance yet fairly basic vehicle on damp roads, breaking traction. Walk round a factory with and without a mask on etc?
Is the supposed to be a link to the Escort video? Those drone shots of the car sliding around are from a previous Motorsport-Tools video and were shot on private land.
yep, the escort video. mebbe they were - thought I saw a shot from inside the car where he gets a bit sideways.
but that's kinda irrelevant - in the context of BD doing something potentially risky for his YT video, I'm fairly sure one could easily argue that the escort video didn't need to happen, and even more so, how much 'value' is there to the driving bit, given they're gonna sell very few so the 'review' part of the video is purely for the enjoyment of the viewers - as such, he's driven a performance car, on wet, public roads, through villages etc, needlessly. Thus, putting himself and others at unnecessary risk. He could have just filmed in the factory and used Motorsport Tools' footage for context. and that's not even going in to the suitability of MT driving the car, breaking traction near cliffs and dry stone walls during a pandemic - all they're doing is removing the risk to other members of the public, not the risk to themselves (but... presumably... they're professionals. right?)
I've blathered, but I think the parallels between BD's and the Escort video are pretty similar, but nobody seems that upset by the escort video.
IMO, of course.
(FWIW I enjoyed both videos, and have issue with neither - the world continues to spin, covid or not).
I want to see the escort vid! link?
Is it one of these?:
Oh must be. Thanks!
The Jonny Smith video was filmed on a private estate for the sliding shots and he was also allows for travel to do it under the working rules. I struggled to see any blatant rule breaking anywhere in the video, either on first watch or on subsequent ones, so don't have an issue with it at all.
The Brendog ones are similar in terms of travelling to film is allowed but he does take quite severe liberties with social distancing with other riders at times. He has addressed this on his social media though so I would suspect he will be a lot more cautious for the next lot of videos he films.
In both of the cases though they are having to work to make a living, Jonny is building his channel as his only work and Brendog is having to give value to his sponsors as there is no racing currently. There are just as many issues with other workplaces, supermarkets for example, so provided there isn't any complete disregard for the rules I would be wary of giving them a slating online. Bring the issue up with them by all means but be polite about it.
He has addressed this on his social media though so I would suspect he will be a lot more cautious for the next lot of videos he films.
I don’t do social media - but does that mean he has seen peoples concerns about his actions?
Good on him if he has acknowledged it. These people as professionals should be setting examples for others to follow, not encouraging tenuous interpretation of rules.
I work in the NHS, I want to see my frontline colleagues workload drop, I want to see less people getting admitted to hospital, I want to see things return to ‘normal’ as quickly as possible. We all have a part to play in this, including professional mountain bikers, who have more influence on other peoples behaviour than they appear to realise