I did edit that to say 'an old' hardtail! - it was a scrapper and sometimes you just want to know.
People think that a Jones is just a bunch of whacky curved tubing, dismissed as an explosion in a spaghetti factory, but it's all there for a purpose, it really is laterally stiff, no buzz from rear tyres, and the vertical flex is there too.
Jeff's fat bike was based on a diamond frame IIRC.
Brant's new frame, but he won't say what it is yet.
[jumps up and down waving hands in air]
I know what it is. I've got one that looks just like it in the shed but mines black. I've still got the stickers if you want them Brant?
😈
^is that Michael Stipe of REM accepting a music award?
I'm just chuffed that a comment I made has helped result in this frame.
You can all carry on discussing it now 🙂
The answer to your question Waswas, is that if they're not welded to the seat tube, the bike will (probably) handle like a wet noodle 😉 we'll see I suppose.
Take the toptube out, straighten that seat tube, and it's Brant's homage to Torker/Haro Bmx bikes from the early 80's?
Torker 280x anyone? With a Redline flite crank, some Araya 7x, CW Pro Bars and a pair of Dia Compe mx1000's?
If only I stil had it ...
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Are Planet X or on one run from the box room of brants mums house.
Is that why he uses this forum for advertising, customer service, exactly how tin pot is his business.
Anyone else who uses this forum to promote there business quickly gets there head bitten off , yet he continually gets free reign to use this site as a marketing tool.
I hope he kicks a few spons to the mods by the way of thanks for propping up his business.
^^ Don't feed the troll ^^
Oh, and [i]their[/i] not [i]there/[/i].
Not trolling, just an observation..
[i]he continually gets free reign[/i]
that's right, he's the king of this site and doesn't have to pay for the privilege.
Brant isn't the only trade person to post on here, he follows the rules on astroturfing and, from what I've seen, provides a good back on customer service for P-X (he did for me anyway).
Other than that, not rising to the bait.
I do hope we get a ride report on here - I'd love to know if the stays do act as a bigger spring without introducing noodliness.
Are Planet X or on one run from the box room of brants mums house.
Is that why he uses this forum for advertising, customer service, exactly how tin pot is his business.
Anyone else who uses this forum to promote there business quickly gets there head bitten off , yet he continually gets free reign to use this site as a marketing tool.
I remember that feeling, it was quite painful 🙂
I do hope we get a ride report on here - I'd love to know if the stays do act as a bigger spring without introducing noodliness.
I am sure you will. 😀
I can't wait.
I wish Specialized and Trek were so open about their development process.
A bit of feedback from here about introducing a 148mm rear hub 'standard' because "135 is too narrow for 29er wheels" whilst doing nothing about the 100mm front "it's too complicated to change it" might have altered Trek's priorities?
Isn't this entire thread about a bike you can't buy, made at their expense as an indulgent muse about how bikes wobble?
Hardly a full page advert is it? And no, he/his employers aren't the only ones and I for one am glad the manufacturers/others show up. Little more incentive to provide some level of customer service.
not trolling
Your missing the fact your not a fanboy that's all, you will soon learn to get wedged up some buddy buddies arse just to be one of the cool kids.
Brant didn't start the thread. So far he seems to have contributed something of interest, which is more than can be said of others... 🙄
Maybe I should get more bracing added, then cut it out.
You could add some reasonably long bracing plates between the two seat stays at a couple of points to help them work together as one beam in side loading and provided you didn't connect it to the main frame anywhere but the headtube and where it crosses the main top tube it wouldn't have any real affect on the vertical stiffness.
As mentioned above, I strongly suspect that the flex in the Jones rear end is critically dependent on the vertical bend in the seat stays to take away a lot of the compression stiffness of the stays. I don't know what your stays do out of shot but if they aren't curved it'll not move too much I suspect.
^ that would certainly help! I reckon it would still twist too much though. Proof/pudding etc.
Did anyone ever get to ride this?
*Sadface* that we may never get to see it.
Would have ridden like a wet noodle. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Gopping
Indeed, one might even call it an [i]ugly[/i] word...Just one of the worst words.
*Sadface* that we may never get to see it.
Aye, maybe. Wasn't Brant responsible for all those slightly odd Ragleys (Bagger 288 etc)?
Brant - if you're looking for volunteers, I'm in Bradford and perhaps Hebden on Sat 🙂
That frame is left in the more than capable hands of the design team at Planet X.
I'm in Berwick, having been bodyboarding at Bamburgh this afternoon and riding at Innerleithen this evening 🙂
Checking out some alpacas tomorrow.
