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Really great news!
Can't wait to see what comes out of his brain this time. His take on the whole Long slack low thing could be a thing of genius.
they need to reduce the range and focus on a few bikes in each discipline. Well spec' d and decent value or start offering rolling chassis builds, I don't want selcoff tat or what ever random not matching kit they fit to bikes these days.
also agree ditch the stupid names and bad paintjobs. ditch the ridiculous pricing yo yo. ditch the sportspursuit model. improve the website so it works better and just bin half the old stock no one will buy.
maybe offer the option to custom paint or a couple of colours to keep costs down
I've never bought a bike from them was very close with the tt and still debating deep section wheels from them (they just aren't cheap enough to buy basically without warranty) the other stuff I've bought from them has all turned up quickly and been perfectly ok. so no customer service issues for me but the horror stories have really put me off
Always liked Brants bikes although it seems the brantsignal doesn't work on the new forum.
Offspring has a Scandal that we picked up for him second hand. Been a belting little bike and if there was a new version I would consider getting him another when he needs a bigger size.
I enjoyed my 456 evo II, my only dabble with OO for a frame. BB threads weren't great but thev rest of the frame was tidy for the money.
Which was the last bike Brant designed for them?
Was the Codeine the last Brant bike?
Last projects were:-
codiene 650b
parkwood 650b and 29
london Road (Px)
45650b
fatty trail
knuckleball bars
Cut gate (didn’t make production)
cxxx (didn’t make production)
I've got a pompetamine, inbred and parkwood. I've had a 456 and another inbred. All great bikes to ride.
OO/PX have gone down hill in recent years. Be good to see on-one producing well designed bikes for UK riding again. Not in a Brexit way mind, more that we don't have ski lifts and dusty trails (normally) and tend to play around in the woods and on bridleways.
Spent 3 hours on my Parkwood 29 today, still a brilliant HT. Had it 3 years now and it barely has a stone chip on it despite 9000 miles on it.
Welcome back Brant.
I bought tyres from on one this week, I clicked, paid, they arrived 2 days later, what's the issue?
C'mon Brant, give us a teaser!
newrobdob
...I realised after 3 on-one/px (they dont deserve capitalisation) bikes what utter crocks of crap they were and promised to never darken their doors again...
My experience is 3 Pompinos. One for me and one each for the kids. Daughter outgrew hers, but the others are in regular use and now well over 12 years old and have all their paint.
An extremely versatile bike. Mine has done two 125 mile day rides in the last month faultlessly and comfortably at audax pace. Its all been taken on a fairly robust ride offroad on part of the HT550 route. Again faultless and good handling.
Anyone who has ridden the Orrin Dam route will appreciate that you don't get a bike to this point if it's crap.
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My Scandal was my bike of choice for mtb for many years and again was good handling. It was the black anodised model and its finish is still good. The only reason I'm not riding it at the moment is because I bought a TD-1...
brant - if that jonesalike frame where the seat stays morphed into the top tube without being welded to the seat tube is still about is love to know how it rides!
wwaswas, that (Cut Gate) was sold of in a staff sale a few months ago. Owner, no longer with the company, tagged me on Instagram. He loves it.
Brant - if we are putting in requests; I`d be happy to buy a disc braked version of the Ragley Cragvale please ... and able to fit up to 30mm tyres.
Brant, please don't forget the 6ft3 plus group and just do small, medium and large.
Any thoughts on a remake of the Scandal in raw? Thanks
Got time for Brant & his designs but no fan of OO /PX brand anymore. So we'll see...still on my Scandal 29er so in no rush
I've had two Inbreds, a Scandal 29er, two Brant-era Ragleys and I'm currently the proud owner of a custom Pact that Brant helped realise for me.
But there's no way the lieing, cheating, dishonest crooks at OO/PX will ever see any business from me. I've more self-respect than that.
Grr
You know what they say..the two happiest days of a man's life are the day he buys an on one
And the day he sells it
The Pompino I had was a great bike wish I hadn't sold it and wish I'd got the disc version. Would look at buying one if they were back in stock. Titus are great bikes I love my elguapo and my fireline. Titus just needed to be marketed better by OO.
You know what they say..the two happiest days of a man’s life are the day he buys an on one
And the day he sells iT
Good WOWS quote there 🙂
On One has completely lost its way in terms of the bikes it offers. Contrast them with Alpkit/Sonder, each bike they launch makes me consider n+1
My experience is 3 Pompinos.
Mine is
a) 100mm travel inbred, first of the own tubing (DN6?) rangr
b) 853 inbred
c) PX Kaffenback
Riding friends have had:
a) white inbred x 3
b) 853 inbred
c) kaffenbak x2
d) carbon 456 x2
i don’t think any of the people who owned any of the above would buy another OO/PX.
Only person I know who still rides his has a PX carbon time trial bike which he was bought as a present.
My list of oo bikes
early fully rigid Inbred for road use and for Mrs
steel 456 x 2 just tin see what the steel hardtail fuss was about
ti lynskey 456 the nicest hardtail iv owned lovely bike
s ragly mmbop bit heavy and stiff for my kind of relationship doing (this was b4 the ti bike)
on one parkwood it’s done absolutely miles. Bike packing winter some big lakes descents still own it but it looks well used.
I fancied a ti fireline for ages but would look for something that has bolt through axle and clearance for B+ tyres now.
All of mine were second hand so I didn’t ever deal with the oo customer service dpt
agree the crap names gairish paint schemes and flaky paint do put me off a bit now.
Mans why kill off your big names ?? Look at mini bmw knew what a know brand is.
The 456 , scandal etc were known and loved
not so the deedar and spacechicken
I cannot express how much I hate this company and cant for the life of me understand why anyone would buy from them. They are nothing more than brand whores buying any now defunct brand name that once stood for something good and slapping on a frame named and coloured by primary school children.
Once the 'marketing dept' is signed off on whatever inane shit name it comes up with its then emailed out to some shit hole chinese company with its falling off approach to QC. Its then punted out on a random yo-yoing pricing structure for some lucky punters to then discover the QC fails.
I'd rather not ride at all than than have to ride anything from 'insertwhateverbrandnameboughthere'. In fact **** it - i'd rather ride an ebike, thats how much hate I have for the company.
Had an inbred, the old white one, pretty much the only people offering something of that ilk at he time and rather liked it
As people say, the range has gone a bit nuts since, and somehow lost a bit of that charm.
Personally I've always had a good experience with them.
I cannot express how much I hate this company and cant for the life of me understand why anyone would buy from them.
+10000
I also can not understand how they’ve managed to gain apologists for their crap QC. When that issue with the seatpost fitting came up (London road frame?) people on here were saying “what’s the fuss, it’s a cheap frame, what do you expect?” - WTF????? Just because something is cheap doesn’t mean if it is unfit for purpose you should just cope with it. I bought a Handsome Dog frame once for £75 (all terrain bike shop own brand) and I’ve only just built it up (had it for years as a frame). Nicely made, everything straight and everything fits well, paint is good quality too. There is no excuse for crap QC at the On-One prices.
Then we have the appalling customer service from them (AND Brant who a few years ago knew about the crap design features on his bikes but didn’t do anything about it with his newer frames - it’s not just the company On-One that is to blame) and that is enough from me. I’ll do what I can to make sure no-one buys anything from them again. I don’t have to exaggerate or tell lies about my experiences, they speak for themselves and I know others have had identical issues so I’m not on my own.
And this is added to the numerous times they’ve tried to deny people their consumer rights - I hope they go out of business.
1)Whats wrong with buying names that are dying? I'd rather see Holdsworth alive in some ones hands than gone. Good business surely?
2) Customer service has been crap for many but how many like me have had a better than expected experience? Some surely.
3) Chinese buying? Why not ? They are not the only ones. Ribble for example.
4. Silly names. WTF? Its a name, who is pathetic enough to care about a name? Better than many, Trek for example. At least the names are funny.
PX serves a purpose. You'll know when it gets it wrong, they'll shut.
It all depends on the level of death a brand has gone through. Nothing worse than a firm saying "since whenever" when I know that literally nothing but the logo has any connection with the original company or its employees. Not sure if PX do this with Holdsworth but the mystique (model name from yesteryear) looks identical to a Tifosi Cavazzo. At least Tifosi have done their bit to build up a brand and not just claim a link to the past.
Fwiw I've had both sorts of OO/PX customer service and Brant being back is a positive imho, cheap and cheerful original designs appeal to me a lot more than rebadged open mould bikes.
The reason On One/PX bought so many respected names wasn't anything to do with saving them; it was so they could trade on the goodwill for a while, while delivering standard On One shitty service and products. Tomac's the best example of this, compare that with Saracen...
I liked my 45650b but it rarely gets used now I've a full suss.
I thought they were going under after the local Barnsley store closed?
Gary Fisher and Keith Bontrager could join them and I still wouldn’t put a penny their way. Took them three attempts to send the correct rear mech hanger out to me. On the third time the a-hole on the customer disservice line told me that he couldn’t next day it, even though it meant I couldn’t take my own bike on a long planned holiday. My bad for assuming the mech hanger for a dirty disco on their website actually fitted a dirty disco.
Just done 130km on my 29er Inbred this morning. Frame and its paint still going strong. No signs of corrosion. Cost £130 new. Can't say fairer than that.
A carbon 456 29er would sell. Possibly to me
Hmm. I have had some great times on OO frames.
I got an inbred in 2005 and loved it. Got another in about 2007. Loved it. Scandal V2 in about 2010, might be later, just did another Gravel Dash on it. Got a pompino in the shed, from back in the day, and Mrs GDRS rolls around on her slightly rusty inbred. Anyway, for the money and for a bodger like me these frames have done me right.
Reboot the scandal...I am fed up of loosing out on the mint ones that pop up on ebay.
I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with both Brant and On-One. Sales, warranty, all fine. Pickenflick was great, pompetamine less so, but that’s more to do with my general dislike of steel.
I still find it hilarious that they bought all of Jimmy Saville’s bikes after he died...
And then, we’ll, we all know what happened next. 🙈😂😂😂
Got a 29er Scandal (still looks new)
XlS wicked bke!
Uncle John,Still looks mint!
OOF
All bought second hand though,no problems with any of them.
Are the jimmy savile bikes on display ?
A variation on the pompetamine as a proper SSCX bike, maybe with a big headtube and carbon fork option.
I remember the first time I went into the store. I wanted to buy an uncle John disc frame set. The frame was disc but the forks were v brakes. I asked if there were any disc forks?
I think it was brant that said, yes we designed it for disc forks but someone forgot to change the spec and ordered v brake forks instead.
Name me one other company that would sell a bike with v brake forks and disc frame?
I asked why they didn't Re order the forks? The answer I got was "we aren't continuing the uncle John frame"
I liked my inbred so much I rode it to death. It had a hard and long life. Its remains now hang in the garage, I can't bring myself to chuck it.
They were a bit weighty weren't they?