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Brand New Wicked Will not Seating

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This is the first time I've failed to seat a new tyre.

The same rims have had MM, NN, HD, all fine bar a little bit of shenanigans with soap and max-limit pressures to get that last pop and concentric bead - first fit only.

Two questions really; is it just this model, and any tips?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 9:20 am
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shove a tube in overnight to "stretch"/straighten everything out - good for pressing down any new rim tape, too


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 9:31 am
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Thanks.

I did exactly that on Sunday.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 9:37 am
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<shrug> that's all I've got

Is it 2 tyres and both won't seat ?  Are the rims taped and could you take off a layer if doubled-up ?
(would you back yourself to ever get the tyre off in the middle of a rainy ride even if/when they do go on?)


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 9:52 am
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Have you got one side seated already? Presume you have. Have you got it sealed and just can't get the bead seated, or are you having trouble getting it sealed initially?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 10:34 am
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The last set of tyres that I struggled with (Gravel King SKs) I ended up putting a tube in to get it seated, taking the tube out leaving one side seated, heating the tyre up with a hair dryer to make it more pliable, and then using a compressor. Oddly, I'm still in favour of tubeless, despite all that.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 10:47 am
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are you sure its not seated? some don't go on with a pop.

failing that, more pressure and pulling the unseated bits out by hand would be my approach


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 10:48 am
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If it's holding pressure, go for a very gentle seated ride round on it?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 10:49 am
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I've had three different Schwalbe tyres do this lately and they've all blown off the rim, then wouldn't stay on the rim. Maybe speak to the shop you got it from about it, it may be a warranty job.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 10:58 am
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are you sure its not seated?

Yes, you can see it and feel it when you ride, like a clown's bike.

Are the rims taped and could you take off a layer if doubled-up ?

Just a single layer of electrical tape with a tube in.

If it’s holding pressure, go for a very gentle seated ride round on it?

I've been for quite a lively ride on it.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 11:22 am
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This method has been a revelation to me and has never failed me.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 11:33 am
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Thanks. I'm not sure if the video helps with my problem, though.

My tyre is fitted and inflated. Just egg-shaped.

I've ridden on it, refitted it, left it in the sunshine, massaged the beads, tried soaped and dry, inflated to max pressure, let it down again, repeat.


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 12:04 pm
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Just a single layer of electrical tape with a tube in.

Does the tape go right to the edges?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 12:07 pm
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Also worth swapping the electrical tape for proper rim tape?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 12:08 pm
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Silicone spray around the rim before inflating?


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 12:09 pm
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Does the tape go right to the edges?

No. it only need to cover the sp0ke holes.

Also worth swapping the electrical tape for proper rim tape?

It's had two types of tape already.

Silicone spray around the rim before inflating?

Soap


 
Posted : 28/05/2024 1:54 pm
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Fixed. I remembered the old washing machine trick - it's clean and straight now.


 
Posted : 29/05/2024 8:54 am
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How you managing with electrical tape, every time i've opened one up with a "problem" the tapes stretched and torn into the spoke holes. "It's always worked for me before".

Yeah, no. This is the 6th/7th/8th time you've been here with a tyre that fails to stay inflated...


 
Posted : 29/05/2024 9:01 am
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What's the "old washing machine trick" for future inflation issues btw


 
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Also interested in the machine trick


 
Posted : 29/05/2024 9:54 am
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@smiffy - as above, what's the "old washing machine trick" (and how old does it have to be?) ?


 
Posted : 29/05/2024 10:01 am
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Wash the tyre in the machine. Mine's quite old but I'd imagine a newer one being fine, too. I just haven't tried it.

LG in this case, but it works in a Bosch as well and might be ideal, if agricultural, for German-branded tyres.


 
Posted : 30/05/2024 12:50 pm