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Never rode one,or even seen one in the flesh,or metal...The Giant Trance,it just looks shite.
Giant VT
Scott spark & scale.
Oh yeah, nicolai helius CC. horrible. more roadie feeling arse up head down than my colnago. not right at all.
Eccles - MemberMr Agreeable's Cove. Forks too short, bars to narrow, shocking brakes and as for that colour...
Posted 4 hours ago
Eccle's PA. Like riding a fifth-hand oil rig with wheels. ๐
Hate is a strong word but I've never particularly liked any Kona full-sus bikes I've tried. I've also never liked Orange bikes, which is probably because I used to assist on test days at a local shop which was an Orange stockist (as well as others) and I always ended up riding Orange bikes when the punters took the better bikes made by other companies and I couldn't ride my bike instead as they didn't stock them. The Five and the 7+ were a couple I really disliked.
orange 5, my god did i get brake jack on long or steep decents it was like being buckaroo'd
quite a few really, ones that I have owned
Marin Mount vision 1998/9
Santa Cruz Bullit that was a dog to climb on loved the heckler
Pace 2000 could not walk for a week
Nicolai Helius CC, good bike but did not suit me.
Tried or borrowed,
Orange 5, no no no
cannondale raven
orange 5, my god did i get brake jack on long or steep decents it was like being buckaroo'd
Panic braking much? ๐
Ellsworth I.D. Felt like I was sat ontop of a two storey building.
06 Marin Mt Vision and 06 Stumpy FSR... both felt like I was towing a car tyre, although the Stumpy did have the redeeming feature of being very good downhill once gravity took over. The Marin was just hopeless.
Controversially... not mad about my Love/Hate either, just doesn't seem to ride as well as the gas-pipe Inbred it replaced.
Dialled Bikes Prince Albert. Didn't get it at all.
Love the DB Alpine, however.
Whyte PRST1 - very odd rocking chair ride (pass the travel sickness pills job)
150mm full suss travel bikes ridden on local trails...
alpin - the Zaskar is a race bike and the rear triangle makes it stiff to fling it around corners super sharp. My fave racing hardtail but deffo not an all day bike unless you are in super duper uber shape-fatigue over rocks etc.
my second hand dialled morning glory - my first ti ht, built it up with coil pikes and a nice wheelset it looked amazing , one ride and my back was destroyed for weeks meaning i missed the 2007 dyfi
Ah, just remembered (shudder..!) my Gary Fisher Sugar, real love/hate bike - super fast shopping trolley steering, ace on flat tight & twisty singletrack, but absolute b***h on techy descents ๐ฏ
I wont go back for years i'd be here for ever, so most recently
Cannondale Scalpel - if i want a suspension bike i'd like it to work please. I would rather ride a hardtail.
Scott Ransom - just felt wrong in every way, too heavy for a carbon bike, strange geometry - managed to feel too long and too low at the front. horrid, i didnt even complete the test ride.
Santa Cruz chameleon for me. Just to harsh. Are there any bikes here that people always like as we seem to has slagged off the holy grails of PA, Orange 5 and Turner?
150mm full suss travel bikes ridden on local trails...
To be fair, not everyone can afford multiple bikes and 150mm bikes are starting to be light enough to be a real do it all bike.
It's the age old, just cause someone's riding a freeride bike down a toe path - doesn't mean that's all they ride it on...
Edit: besides, when we were doing bike fest laps the other day it was my almost 150mm full susser that was comfortably the first to the end of the upper quarry trail - oooooooohhhh ๐
Any Specialized full sus' I've ever ridden.
And there was I thinking my new SS was the most hated bike on here!
Dissapointed now.
the worst bikes i've ever ridden / owned were ruined by set-up.
back in the day I bought a cannondale (M1000 i think) with Mag21's the guy in the shop was very confident that because of the tall forks I needed a zero degree rise stem (it may even have been negative). That and the narrow flat bars and high saddle resulted in constant neck ache, and anything technical was a nightmare
i've now realised i don't like clipless pedals, don't care what anyone says, even tho i'm a jey xc rider - flat pedals, short stem and monster bars for me
Orange Clockwork. Felt all wrong to me and I bought a Kona
It's got to be said I'd never go anywhere near a Giant or Scott because back in the day they made some horrid, cack bikes and I can't get that out of my head. They still look cack too.
Or a Nicolai until they learn to put the transfers on properly
Or an Ibis Mojo. They just look crap.
Whyte PRST1N, or whatever it was called. Borrowed one for a couple of weeks from a mate, really hateful, awkward pig of a thing that dived through all its front end travel if you looked hard at the brake lever.
Whyte 46 - tall, long and terrifying at speed because of its XC angles. Really quite nasty.
The first incarnation of the SC Blur, just did nothing for me. Mark 1 Spesh Epic - clang, crash, bang, slam, clang etc - a really nasty 900-quid Claude Butler hardtail. Twitchy death. Came to hate the Giant Reign for its bland sluggishness despite liking it to begin with.
Oh, Harley Sportster, badge-engineered toss with a tiny fuel tank. Any Japanese custom-styled motorcycle bar the Vee-Max, which was class. I'm sure there are loads of others too. Mostly I've tried to forget them, so only the very worst have stuck in my memory...
sheldona - MemberAnd there was I thinking my new SS was the most hated bike on here!
Dissapointed now.
I'd have said your spork. But I've not ridden it yet.
Have to wait until its dark and there's no one around before I have a go on it...... ๐
well generally any full suspension bike I have ever ridden - like riding in an armchair, could not see the point.
Tried to replace my old steel kona cindercone with a alu new one back in 2003 (the old one was 1997). I hated it and it didn't come even close to the real steel feel! Oh and it had front suspension which was crap (old one didn't have suspension forks and didn't seem to need them).
johnners...
I was thinking of buying one of these, can you be more specific?
Hate's a bit strong but I disliked my Roadrat from the minute I slung my leg over it. So much so that I stripped it down and sold the frame and wheels (which I'd built specially) in pretty short order. That sort of decisive action is very unusual for me, usually things end up in the loft in case I decide to give them another try in a couple of years!
My kona unit 29er I instantly hated as it felt too upright and slow (to accelerate) however it is true about the bigger wheels rolling over stuff more easily. Incidentally I tried it again recently and it felt much better ๐
Got an pre-current-shape Heckler thinking it might have been as good as the Chameleon it replaced but it just felt sluggish. Replaced that after 2 rides with the new 'trendy' bike - a Cotic Soul which for the first few rides I didn't like either but the missus would have thrown a wobbler if I'd changed bikes twice in the space of a month so kept at it and it ended up being one of the best bikes I've ever owned.
'09 Stumpjumper FSR Elite - just wrong in so many ways. Those Elixir brakes were nice though.
twohats - Memberzaskar - Member
150mm full suss travel bikes ridden on local trails...
Does that mean that I can't take my one and only MTB out on the local trails if I'm not riding "gnarly" stuff???
Probably if the bike fashion police catch up with you! But just thump off down some big steps to escape them ๐
dialled PA. one ride and i sold it on.
