[Closed] bikers and green lanes

Whilst still legal it will continue.

And rightfully so.

C

Chris - narrow minded NIMBY

You'll never learn till NPA stop you riding anything with two wheels.

The point is, it is legal - The powers that be - i.e. people that make the rules - are of the mind that it is ok. and that includes NPA.
Why should a bunch of people with only a selfish objective be able to undermine this.

As good a job as LARA does - they are never going to compete with the lobbying power of the RA etc and their celebrity members. I forget the name of the LARA chap (Malcolm??) one man.....

We never stood a chance really - depressing.

Zero points Nick.

Fair do's. A career as a detective still eludes me. Yes I can remember gates on the roads. The trip to Kettlewell was all day of a trek back in the day. As was visiting the World Trials Rounds at Bainbridge.

thought Foxup was off limits anyway??

Foxup Road (the bridleway from Horton to Foxup) (I rode over it twice last weekend) went to a public enquiry in about 1995 (my guess). Despite a TRF member claiming it had horse and cart rights the enquiry proved no such rights existed and it was definitivly a BW. Any other criminal acts you want to confess up to!! Incidentally, in the strange way these things often show archaic rights, it showed inhabitants of Foxup (and Halton Gill) had a right but no-one else.

C

nick3216 - I only rode Foxup once, thought it was a great trail - drop down into Littondale then do Halton gill. fantastic days.

We were advised it was a bit 'grey' so left it alone.

2012 - 20 = 1992

duh!

want to make any other baseless allegations of criminality?

Pedantically speaking, just because it was done before the inquiry, doesn’t make it any less of an offense, the inquiry just confirms the existence of rights (or not) and amends the DM&S accordingly.

If it was 20 years ago when you last rode it, I suppose you can be forgiven. Even murderers get parole after that sort of length of time………..

C

ChrisE

Klumpy – I still can’t accept that you argue ‘Green lanes are roads that were never tarmacced’ then will not accept that when totaling up the kilometres of routes open to ride, you do not include the ‘ordinary road network’. You can’t have it both ways!

Right, and for mountain bikes we include all the cycle paths in city centers... I'm talking about pitting two wheeled machines against offroad conditions for recreation. It's so ridiculous, mountain bikers objecting to trail riders makes as much sense as a cross country MTB-er objecting to All-Mountain bikes.

Lawmanmx - Member
cr500dom ... ex Supermoto VD'er indeed

Howdo Tony ;).....long time no see !!

Klumpy - you either say BOATs are part of the ordinary road network or they are not - which is it!

You can't argue one way when it suits you then argue exactly the opposite in the next sentance when it doesn't!!

C

Thats sad Talltom.Not ridden up in the Dales since 2003.Peaks are more forgiving.I am lucky greenlane in Cotswolds and Wiltshire still plenty of trails left. For how long i wonder?Somerset is a right off.

ChrisE, you are giving the no campaign the image that it is run by swivel eyed nimbys. Are you retired and have too much time on your hands?

Does anyone here know ChrisE? Does he actually ride? I'd hate to think he was genuinely one of us with an attitude like that.
Rambler agent provocateur is my bet.

Oh I am found out – and posts like this

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/with-pics-the-best-adventure-best-ride-ever-gr5-transalp

are just part of an elaborate deception… or perhaps I just rode it to put (don’t know who would care) off the scent of me not having a bike!! Not really. Just a rider who rides mostly the same area (ie Craven Dales) and has seen it destroyed from the 1990s onwards by offroaders albeit that decline has slowed dramatically from the NERC Act onwards. Slowed but not reversed.

Retired, I wish!

C

Fourbanger: I often stop at Chris' Dales home when riding by. And yes, he does some fairly high mileage mountain biking.

All mountain bikers are swivel eyed loons, but it's ok because their swivel eyed loonery is based around actually enjoying hurtling down hills, grinding up climbs and drinking muddy water straight off the front tyre; no harm to anyone (else).

The objectionable swivel eyed loonery is in the persecution of a bunch of recreational countryside users who have more in common than not with anyone on an MTB, who use a mere 2% of offroad trails and have only ever asked to be allowed to enjoy what little remains to them.

And as a mucky two wheeler I must point out, "a bicycle isn't a horse", just as "a motorbike isn't a landrover".

Lawmanmx - Member
cr500dom ... ex Supermoto VD'er indeed

Howdo Tony ;).....long time no see !!

i certainly has been a while, you swapped the throttle for pedals too then eh :O)

I don’t think it’s surprising that the only person you quote as liking offroaders is a guy whose spends all day on Sunday selling petrol to tourists.

I still think this sounds like someone who doesn't know or support his local businesses and has a slightly sneery tone.

yossarian - Member

Off road[s] motor [/s]bikes have utterly screwed a number of trails nearby.

Bit cheap, but FTFY- lots of our local trails have had the arse ripped out of them, almst entirely by mountain bikers with a little help from horses in some cases. Never seen a motorbike or a motorbike footprint in years.