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Does it really, I thought it was just made up nonsense
All words are made up. That's how language works.
Now I'm conflicted. I suspect Iolo may be right, but also think he's coming across as a cock. Life in the grey area is tough.
I'm still waiting for the pic of iolo and the fish.
I'm the only one to have mentioned it, but i'm sure others want to see that proof too.
I'll defend iolo a bit here, he's got a uniquely direct approach but I don't think it's ever facetious, just not a buttery smooth poster 🙂 - I'd be lying if I wasn't [i]wondering[/i] if this was a tall tale.
That's a reflection of the trolly poly threads that crop up on here, rather than the OP though, of whom I know nothing.
I'm still waiting for the pic of iolo and the fish.
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It's the best I can do without going out and I'm too busy.
Maybe the OP is the borrower really and he's damaged the alleged cockwombles bike?!?!? 😯
Burn em both just to make sure!!
[i]All words are made up. That's how language works.[/i]
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The first time I heard the phrase Cockwomble it was in the first response sent to David Cameroons first tweet.
Im content that iolo is a real person but i still want to see a pic of him with this 'apparent' fish.
beginning to suspect that its in a tin and we have all been duped.
oh, pics of the trashed bike or i wont sharpen my pitchfork
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Yes, obviously when I said "that's how language works", the "in its entirety, with absolutely no other influences, criteria or considerations whatsoever" was implied.
I reckon iolo is the borrowing cockwomble...
I see no evidence whatsoever that that is a fish. The can would have been opened the other end. I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that whoever it is is holding a vessel that at one point may have held a bit of fish
beginning to suspect that its in a tin and we have all been duped.
Schrödinger's fish?
Any can shown on this forum will only contain worms.
Uncle Bulge area
*applauds*
[i]Any can shown on this forum will only contain worms. [/i]
unless it's can-a-loany?
igmc.
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Hmmm, I'm siding with the "cycletoworkscheme" karma having bitten back myself.
Dibs on being a fly on the wall when the boss, OP & cockwomble have a chin wag
the work sponsored (kind of) charity/local club fundraising ride
For all those (and there seem to be a lot of you) suggesting that this is sufficient to go all "get the manager to sort it out" "get HR involved" "get the company to pay for the damage" (I might have made the last one up) I suspect that dropping receipts for damage on the boss's desk and expecting the company to mediate / intervene / nuke the cockwomble from orbit will get one likely response and one only: a swift email round everyone announcing that the company will no longer get involved in fundraising activities and will not allow for such things to be done on company time in future, due to all the problems and wasted time that result.
It was your idea that he borrow the bike wasn't it?
For all those (and there seem to be a lot of you) suggesting that this is sufficient to go all "get the manager to sort it out" "get HR involved" "get the company to pay for the damage" (I might have made the last one up) I suspect that dropping receipts for damage on the boss's desk and expecting the company to mediate / intervene / nuke the cockwomble from orbit will get one likely response and one only: a swift email round everyone announcing that the company will no longer get involved in fundraising activities and will not allow for such things to be done on company time in future, due to all the problems and wasted time that result.
Depends how good the manager is, if he's really a cockwomble then maybe.
If he's not he'd realise that for the good of office morale it needs sorting out, and that the event weather officially endorsed or not was attended by the majority of the office and that the equipment had been lent out of good will between colleagues and that if nothing is done then no one is ever likely to co-opperate with the guy who borrowed the bike again.
Worst case, if the situation deteriorated and the guy quit he could take them to a tribunal for unfair dismissal as his position became untenable in the office (not saying he'd have a case, but it'd cost more than having a quick word now and telling the bloke to cough up for the damage).
Op, if you are still reading this, let it die now and update us in a month, we need resolution godammit.
(god dammit. one word or two you reckon?)
[quote=iolo ]There's only one way to prove it and make me look like the arse that I possibly am.
Don't worry, pics of the OP's damaged bike aren't required.
[quote=nickjb ]Why are we now talking about insurance, hr and legal obligations? Surely the unwritten rule of "break it, replace it" is just a convention. He has a moral obligation, of course, but no more than that. That is the danger of lending stuff to mates and colleagues.
Except that unwritten rule has a fairly decent legal basis behind it. Bike always has, and always will be the property of the OP - there is no legal dispute about that. Another party has damaged his property and has a legal obligation to put him back in the position he was originally. That is the default legal position - if you get hit by a car and your bike damaged the assumption is that you haven't given the car driver permission to damage your bike. It would be up to the cockwomble to show on balance of probabilities that he had been given permission to damage the OP's bike.
Bike always has, and always will be the property of the OP
is this still true if bought on a cycle to work scheme? - judging by OP's posting it may well have been
Don't worry, pics of the OP's damaged bike aren't required
I would really appreciate if you put some up OP as I'm being labelled even more of a cock than I normally am.
If not, we can assume it didn't happen. Great troll 😆
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Bike always has, and always will be the property of the OP
is this still true if bought on a cycle to work scheme? - judging by OP's posting it may well have been
No, but that doesn't change the principle.
Iolo - either
a) it's a troll - so why are you feeding them?
or
b) the bloke's got £800 worth of damage to a bike he's not sure he's ever going to be repaid - so why are you taking the piss?
I can't see what you're doing is a good thing either way?
I've not once taken the piss. I've sympathised with the op if it's damaged. All I've done is questioned the credibility by seeing this poor guys bike, not called anyone a liar.
No, what you've done is said
"unless you prove you're not a liar, I'm going to publicly suggest you might be but without actually straight accusing you, but either way the burden of proof is on you"
That's not really fair.
Well if that cockwomble doesnot contribute anything, and the op posts photos...and we donated a £10 each to a fellow biker or replacement parts we could all feel a little happier about the situation...there must be more than enough willing to help...it could be you !
Lets be nice STW ! 😉
I lent a mtb to a friend once for some friends of his that were visiting. Tyre sidewall was ripped... Bike came back clean as with two brand new tyres as recompense...
For the my alleged harassment I would be up for that. Of course, just for everyone's peace of mind we would need to see the damage.
So every time someone's bike gets damaged we should all chip in and pay for repairs, how about stolen ? Buy them a new one !!! It's the op's bike, he's a grown up I'm sure he can sort it out with his colleague.
I'm doubting this ever happened now.
...and we donated a £10 each to a fellow biker or replacement parts we could all feel a little happier about the situation...
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It's got absolutely nothing to do with the company unless they forced him to loan the bike (which obviously didn't happen). As for getting involved anyway for the sake of morale or whatever then if I ran the company I'd stay well clear, firstly I doubt I could afford to pay for other people's mistakes and secondly it sets a bad precedent (is it really that much different to one workmate loaning the other some money and not getting it back etc.).
Some very shitty and unnecessary legations being made/almost being made. Give the OP a break FFS.
Pics of carnage may actually bring out some sympathy from the stw heathens 😉 Does seem odd to not post easily accessible pics
To be fair, Dan. The OP has only had 4 days.
[i]we donated a £10 each to a fellow biker or replacement parts we could all feel a little happier about the situation[/i]
I feel fine enough about the situation that donating £10 to a random person on the internet won't make me feel finer. Is the OP having money problems?
To be fair, Dan. The OP has only had 4 days.
If it was me then on principal I wouldn't post any pics. Why should he post pics to shut up a bunch of strangers on the internet who have essentially accused him of fabricating the whole thing.
Even if he did post pics I can guarantee that the naysayers will then moan about the damage isn't that bad etc etc.
He posted a simple question. Answer the question or ignore the thread if you feel that aggrieved to the legitimacy of the whole thing FFS.
Borrow an expensive camera to take the photos of the damage then and drop it. Don't pay the owner the damage.
That way you've passed on the loss to someone else.
Answer the question or ignore the thread if you feel that aggrieved to the legitimacy of the whole thing FFS.
Are they the only 2 choices available? Seems a bit black or white.
Any update on this op? Is the damage being fixed?
Don't think the OP will come back to the thread and i dont blame him tbh
Hopefully he gets a satisfactory outcome