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Right lads...

Lets not be insulting any of the bikes/prices too much as they may be forum members... But...

I've been struggling to buy a short term replacement for the bionicon for the upcoming trip to Morzine. The long and short of it is that i didn't gel with the Bionicon and maybe looking back in Hindsight i should have kept it for this trip, used it and then sold it when i got back here... However, i didn't... so lets move right on past that...

so.. what to buy ? Time is short, money is OK and distance... well, i've got a life so i'm not driving to Scotland.

So feel free to comment/advise on what i've found as options and feel free to offer new and interesting ideas...

Feel free to also tell me to just use my XTC29er and pocket the money.

Ideally, the bike needs to have about the same residual value on it's return (assuming here i don't love the thing and keep it) so bear in mind it's likely to be a short term answer.

Currently on my list is a SC Heckler..over on Br forum
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40089&t=12860385

A Giant Reign 1, he'll let go for £700
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110897463048?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_758wt_1396

An FSR Expert in London
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280903754534?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413

A Giant Reign 3 in Midhurst
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180906695522?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413

And that's about it really...


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:20 am
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The Heckler, by a country mile.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:23 am
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All would fit the bill - a Giant Trance maybe a better bet over a Reign.

Which is the closest.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:27 am
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Based on the age and spec of them I'd 2nd the Heckler. As it's so much newer it's likely to be more reliable and it's got a good fork on it.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:30 am
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in distance, the Reign 1 is about 25-30 mins from me, bloke will sell at £700.

Bloke with the Heckler will come down in price.. but it's still top end of what i ideally wanna pay... but does come with nice things like the High Rollers meaning i don't need to worry, just buy it and go.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:30 am
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2x SX trail frames in the classifieds or the 06 Enduro frame (also ---->) would be my choice. Sell for the same money when you get back.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:31 am
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i need more than a frame Hora... i've got spares in case of issues but i don't have forks/wheels for 26's.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:33 am
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A 'wanted' ad might widen your choices


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:36 am
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there's a bottlerocket on ebay...


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:37 am
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a wanted ad is up in wanted section already 🙂


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:38 am
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For Morzine you really want something with a bit more travel... a Reign X or Nomad would be better choices.

Anythign Santa Cruz, Turner hold values well... although if you're only buying/selling within a month you should get most or all of your money back.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:40 am
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The the HEckler

Reign 3 has attitude problems, Reign 1 scratched stanchion could make re-sale difficult and FSR has cheapness but not a lot else going for it


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:40 am
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Didn't we do this exact question 4 days ago?
IIRC you decided to ride the 29er.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:41 am
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heckler


 
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I've owned both a Heckler(Slightly older one) and a Reign. I got rid of the Heckler as personally I found it a little flexy when wanged into hard corners and just a bit....meh.

The Reign was brilliant in virtually every way except the head angle was a tad steep perhaps and you had to take the cranks out to change the shock from air to coil which I do fairly often.
I took the Reign to Morzine for two years and abused it in every way on UK uplifts etc as well as xc rides.

I sold the Reign and got a Mega.... Kind of wish I hadn't really.
Get the Reign 🙂


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:42 am
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Didn't we do this exact question 4 days ago?
IIRC you decided to ride the 29er.

sort of yes... .but then i'm sitting there thinking "is that really a good idea"

I have too much time on my hands/head and too much money in my pocket lol


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:43 am
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Got to be the Santa Cruz!! If only for its green-ness 😀


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:43 am
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I must admit i like the Greenness of the SC... But, i don't mind the looks of the Giant either 🙂

Maybe i should shoot over, have a sit on the Giant and decide from there.

the only full bouncer i've got on with is my old Meta, even the Zesty i rode of my mates felt a bit 'disjointed' to me... like the front end feeling vague or seperate to the rest of the bike... Does that make sense to anyone else ? The Meta didn't have that... i should have kept it in hindsight, but it was just a cracked frame waiting to happen and the timing was right to flog it on... (i guess).


 
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When I was after a frame for an Alps build, everybody said Heckler. I got one, and LOVE it. It's coming to morzine with me tomorrow!!!!! They are a little shorter than some bikes, but that just makes it playful!!


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:52 am
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Good call wrecker> http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1106075/ <


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:53 am
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Don't know what your budget is as ebay's blocked here so can't see the prices of the bikes you listed, but I bought this for my 1st trip to Morzine last year

http://paulscycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b4s1p2817

I absolutely love it. Granted I stuck a set of Lyriks on it and sold the 'zocchis


 
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Love my Regin X0 coming with me to PDS and a week of thrasing 😀


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:55 am
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Heckler

I've done the PPdS twice on my Reign - those bikes would work. However, the Heckler I think is a bit more special, it's newer and will be easy to re-sell afterwards IMO. I'm looking at the ad and thinking ... maybe ... !


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:56 am
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LOL i knew someone would be gazumping me on one or more... but hey ho.. it's all good fun.

This has just come up on the classifieds...

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-intense-spider-2969er-frame

Intense Spider frame..

I'm fairly sure my Fox F29's are just standard forks, nothing fangled due to the tapered headset ?

I could therefore whip all my bits off the Giant/spares, fit everything to the Spider, use that and make decisions... that way i still get to play on a 29er and i've been considering a 29er FS for a while now


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 10:59 am
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P.S....

He'll take £950-1000 for the Heckler with some texting. lol


 
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I've always felt you need 160mm+ travel to enjoy the trails out there. Years ago I used Heckler with 140mm forks for 2 days in morzine and felt like my arms were dropping off. Went back to the rental shop and got a spicy with 160mm, made such a difference.

That enduro in the last post is a good one. But if thats over budget go for an older SX trial, bombproof and perfect for the alps.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:07 am
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Were you riding some DH stuff though Dan ?

I can't see us doing that... we're over 40, fat and incompetent 🙂


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:09 am
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The ebay giants look tired, as does the FSR. The Heckler has sektors too which aren't exactly All Mountain IME.

The pinkbike Enduro and Remedy look more promising to me. Both running Lyriks. Orange has a potential claim too (just can't get over their looks though...)


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:10 am
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I can get this Camber Comp for £700

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270999344568&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123#ht_500wt_1413


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:15 am
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I was tempted to say Heckler, but that enduro does look v-tempting....


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:16 am
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Camber needs better forks and kit. Otherwise fine.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:18 am
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That's RIGHT at the top of budget i must admit... well, the budget i WANT to spend anyway lol


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:18 am
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I'd put an offer on the Enduro.


 
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@weeksy - Yes mostly DH trials, nothing crazy, normally red graded. Its the braking bumps that get you...

Did a few XC loops when there last and the Heckler was perfect. As I live in Wales I ride up hills every day, when I'm in the alps I like you use the lifts 😉

I'm off out there in 2 weeks myself, looking forward to see what new trails have been added since 2008. I'm taking my Orange alpine, thats covers most types of trails and riding.


 
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I like the remedy. They ride brilliantly and that one have loads of upgrades; Formula brakes, renthal finishing kit, Crossmax SX wheels.
Nice Lyriks on there. BOSH. I think you'd get the money back easily on that one, maybe even make a couple of quid if split AND he'll take an offer.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:24 am
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Have this offer from a mate.

Medium Orange Patriot.
I paid 1,600 for it brand new in 2008. And then had the forks uprated from a shit pair of Nixons to the Fox Talas - they were 750 quid I believe - but a deal was cut.
I also changes the brakes from Hayes to the hopes
The whole drive chain has been replaced recently - it runs 3X9
Thomson seat post
spoon saddle

Pretty much immaculate.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:26 am
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Great frames (Patriot) but nowhere near hold their money like the Five does so have a look at similar Patriots on pinkbike etc first and price accordingly. I don't want to offend but I'd pay £750 max for that.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 11:31 am
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I'd say the Spesh Camber is a great UK trail centre bike, but a bit out of its depth in the Alps.

Heckler, Remedy, Enduro, Orange5/Patriot all great options.


 
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Heckler, Remedy, Enduro, Orange5/Patriot all great options.

He's gone and bought a 29er 4" XC bike.
Why bother asking for advice if you're going to ignore all of it?


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 12:58 pm
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.lol


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 1:06 pm
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He's gone and bought a 29er 4" XC bike.
Why bother asking for advice if you're going to ignore all of it?

the answer to that is that i've been wanting to try a 29er FS for ages now. So when the oppertunity came up, it would be rude not to take it. I'm not a DH King and neither are my mates. This is the right frame at the right money and gives me the ability to go back to the XTC should i choose with ease.

It makes the most sense for me.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 1:11 pm
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PS. Thanks to all for the words, links and looking.


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 1:16 pm
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Have you ridden a 29'er around your favourite trails?


 
Posted : 20/06/2012 1:19 pm
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I own a 29er. The one thing i don't own is a 29er FS. So, no i've not ridden a 29er FS around them.


 
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