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D'oh! Just ordered some Endura FS260 instead...
How is Rapha sizing? According to their size guide I'm between a medium and large...
I fall between L and XL in Rapha, definitely XL in tops but shorts I can wear the L, according to their sitting I should be L. If in-between they generally suggest size up, Raphas returns have been very good if you order one of each and send the wrong one back.
Excellent, well since I can now painfully attest to the effects of wearing bibs that are a little too small it makes sense to compensate in the opposite direction!
Edit: So now that I have two new pairs of bibs winging their way to me, how would I go about selling two relatively fresh sets of Castelli Volos during the time of Coronavirus? Launder them twice then seal in a plastic bag for 3 weeks?
kynasf
.....Or just get the Aussiegrit bibs so you can use them for mtb. Normally £180, but currently 50% off everything. I’ve got the non bib version and they’re very good, but I’d rather have the bib version
@kynasf useful PSA cheers not a bib fan but just picked up a pair of shorts at more than 50% off (limited sizes/no returns)
Are white suspenders are more aero than black?
But of course. Mind you if the OP was serious he'd go for a speed suit. Oh hang on...
Uh-oh, just received my new Endura FS260s, they look lovely but feel pretty snug despite me falling slap bang in their 'medium' (33" waist, 85kg, 6ft). Granted there's a pair of thin boxer shorts to mentally subtract from the equation.
Are Endura normally true to size?
Uh-oh, just received my new Endura FS260s, they look lovely but feel pretty snug despite me falling slap bang in their ‘medium’ (33″ waist, 85kg, 6ft). Granted there’s a pair of thin boxer shorts to mentally subtract from the equation.
Are Endura normally true to size?
I was slap bang in the middle of a medium on the chart and all the reviews said true to size on the pair I ordered. Despite all that the straps felt really tight and made me hunch over! Gonna size up.
A sneeze over budget, Gore C5 Bib+ are truly excellent.
I really like Mavic Cosmic Elite shorts.
I don’t get on with bibs at all.
How wide/thick is the chamois pad in the rapha cores, Monvelos or Gore C5s? I'm allergic to big ones, feels like you're wearing a diaper - don't have a ton of crotch space lol.
Maybe an endura bib with a narrow pad is the way to go?
Just got the Dechathlon Triban RC100 and the pad feels way too big for me

But leg length is spot on

Yep, too wide and thick

Compared to a much more reasonable, thinner and narrower Adidas pad (also a size M bib, but legs went over! the knees so I have to return it).

For some of the people commenting on the straps of shorts feeling tight (a few posts up) I have a couple of pairs that feel tight when standing, but once you get on the bike they feel good. Assos and Endura bibs are like that for me.
(Sorry, wasn’t sure how to quote/reply directly to someone).
BTW dechatlon does allow returns and refund both shipping costs plus pay for return shipping - pretty sweet.
PSA those bibs recommended by @CaptainFlashheart are currently £66 at Bike Inn
I'd try the Endura Pro SL II in medium with narrow pads, but they are nowhere to be found so giving a Rapha core in medium a shot.
I just sent back some Rapha classic bibs because they have a stitched seam right down/through the middle of the pad. Seems like utter madness and definitely wasn’t comfy after a couple of hours. Shame because the actual pad bit either side was lovely.
Got some Assos instead which are excellent.
Got some Assos instead which are excellent.
How big is the assos pad compared to the rapha? (width, thiccness)
AND WHY DON'T ASSOS MAKE BIBS WITH WHITE SUSPENDERS?!
The Rapha Core Pad in medium measures 200mm at its widest. I can also vouch for the crash repair service, they fixed mine for free when they could easily have gone in the bin.
AND WHY DON’T ASSOS MAKE BIBS WITH WHITE SUSPENDERS?!
More to the point, why have they stopped doing the little Swiss flag/Assos logos on the leg grippers??
I read that Assos pads were a little wider than most, but they also float? e.g. are only stitched front and back, sounds interesting.
Have some Rapha Core on the way and some (larger) Endura FS260s also.
For some of the people commenting on the straps of shorts feeling tight (a few posts up) I have a couple of pairs that feel tight when standing, but once you get on the bike they feel good. Assos and Endura bibs are like that for me.
I'm nervous of tight feeling straps now as I think the problem with my Castelli shorts (which were otherwise luxuriantly comfortable) was that the tightness of the strap was hoiking the pad tight into the fold betwixt crotch and thigh, leaving it quite raw within half an hour. I don't know if this was just the design of the pad, or because the tight strap was pulling it up too much.
I noticed on the Enduras that I sent back that their 600 series CVP pad doesn't appear to have changed much in the 5 or 6 years since I last bought a pair. Hope that's not a bad sign...
Hmm... Useful thread this as I'm slowly replacing my ageing wardrobe of shorts, hence all the posts!
My new Enduras arrived, I wore them straight out the box on a 2.5hr ride as I didn't expect them to be much different from my old MT500s, the pad looks identical.
Possibly the most uncomfortable I've been in a pair of shorts for a while! Pressure points were fine but just lots of rubbing and chafing. I'm actually now worried they're too big and the chamois is moving about underneath me too much, which would be ironic as I was worried about them being too small...
Can chamois just be a bit rough or abrasive to begin with, e.g. will a few rides and washes soften it up? Will also try with chamois cream if necessary but this seems like a cop out as I've never needed it in the past.
Frustrating that buying shorts can be such a Russian Roulete, £85 for a pair of shorts which right now might only be good enough for short commuting duties... grrrrr
How big is the assos pad compared to the rapha? (width, thiccness)
It's not as thick as the Rapha pads, doesn't feel quite as much like you are sitting on a mattress, but the front area is much better and for me the lack of a central seems makes all the difference to extended comfort.
The pad is only sewn in at the front and back so can move a bit more than a fully sewn in one I guess, not sure if it actually helps or is just a gimmick.
Do Howies still make bibs. Mine are superb.
Still waiting for the Rapha's, arriving the 11th, hope it's not too diaper-y
Dug mine out today (Decathlon). Wore under thin shorts for a touring bike ride.
Feel a sigh of relief when riding in them. Nothing better IMO.
I remember liking Lusso more. But that was decades back. Anyone know if they still make good bibshorts?