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So, I’m looking for a short wireless dropper for my - Scott Spark - race bike. What’s good and importantly, reliable and light?
Well, your choice is the reverb axs or magura vyron. That's it.
AXS is better but more expensive. Vyron is cheaper but has a delay. Neither are lighter than a normal dropper.
I used to have a Vyron a while ago. One of the better droppers I've had and it took about 10 mins to get used to the delay.
I do eventually want a Reverb AXS though. Apparently, they actuate quicker than the standard Reverb 🙂
@kryton57 I totally understand why you want a wireless one after nearly being reduced to tears fitting a dropper to my Spark! 😂
Well quite, i remember reading plus i dont need any more cables on the Spark
Im best described as an occasional user here in the SE flatlands, which is why i want a dropper for the 4-5 times a year i might use it in say the Peaks or Wales. There are races i wouldnt bother so will replace with a normal post.
So the Vyron would appear best value. How "bad" is the delay? Even a an occasional user mid ride i suspect ill have made a decision before im commited to an technical section, so I felt the £200 cheaper option may be better on that basis?
I think they delay completely depends on how you use it. I only ever had it all the way up, or all the way down.
Some people like adjusting the height infinitely, but that's never been my way.
The Vyron works a little different though. You push the button and the dropper opens for a little bit before automatically stopping. Apparently, the AXS works more like a traditional dropper (but a bit faster).
If it was my money and I could afford it, I'd go straight for the AXS. If you don't want to stomach the additional cost, I'd get another Vyron having been happy with my old one.
The only reason I had to sell it was because it was a 31.6mm and my new frame at the time was 30.9mm.
The only issue I have with my Reverb AXS is that it makes all other droppers feel rubbish.
I won mine in a raffle, but if it broke I would buy another for the Geometron and I’m seriously tempted to get one for my Hardtail.
The vyron makes more sense for occasional usage. The delay wasn't an issue for me and the newer version is faster than the one I had. It just worked and kept on working up until the point I sold it. Only sold it to get something with more drop.
I've given my thoughts on my vyron a few times.
After 2 years of faultless operation it stopped working. Turned out s deal went inside. Magura UK replaced it free of charge, despite the service interval being stated as annually.
Year 3. I managed to kick the battery etc off in a crash, magura stepped up again with a repair.
Year 4. It stopped working, magura UK said probably water ingress, I was shocked I definitely didn't hose it down with the rubber cover open, honest.
Year 5 it's been off for a service with RSF and was apparently manky inside. I feel that may be due to the scratch on the post.
Is the delay noticeable,yes, at first.
Do you adjust, yes, you just sit on it or stand up half a second longer than a regular post.
Any issues using it midway through a techie section, yes. At the rear drops into a hole it allows the post to rise.
Other issues, the remote is held on with bands,Ive nearly lost it once in 5 years. Descending Ben Lomond I tried putting it in a bag, that was a disaster.
I had to buy the big paddle for the switch as it's easier to use than miss hitting the elect buttons. Not sure if they have done away with these
I'm happy with it.
No experience with the Vyron, but the AXS reverb is brilliant. More instant than a cable (or hosed) one, as you don't even have a time delay from your thumb touching the button to reaching the point it engages like you would pushing a lever all the way in.
Won't buy a normal one again, same with the gears.
I think the paddle thing is standard now. Mine didn't have one as they brought them out just before I sold it.
Sounds like Magura really look after their customers too!
Wish my paddle was standard and not £40 from our German friends.
The Vyron's I'm looking at have a big plastic cover over the buttons, is that the V2?
And with the Reverb AXS, is there a sensible way to mount the with for RH operation, as I have the Scott's Twinlock on the left...,?
The Vyron is a sh*t dropper post operationally. The only positive to me is it’s better than not having one at all, but comparing it to anything else, (wireless, hydraulic or cabled), it’s rubbish.
The Reverb AXS works just like a normal post, without cables. In other words, it’s great.
I couldn’t think of any reason to pick a Vyron.
And with the Reverb AXS, is there a sensible way to mount the with for RH operation, as I have the Scott’s Twinlock on the left…,?
Not really no. You’d have to mount a LH shifter on the top of the bars on the RHs, which would look... awkward.
Is the no way to move the twinlock, if you were using a front mech, for example?
Hmm no. I’d be using the twin lock about a hundred times more regularly so would prefer that to be in reach. Maybe I could mount the AXS remote a little in board and reach across, as after all there would be some notice before I reach a section... maybe.
I was thinking maybe rotate the twinloc round to the top of the bar, the the reverb underbar
Like this, but with a reverb
Oh dear.
The other thing I’m thinking is for what is limited use to get an external Brand X (or Synchros Duncan which is lighter) which comes with a 2x/over bar lever, and just tape the cable along the TT. Not elegant, but about £400 cheaper and it’d work fine.
Vyron here, 5 years now and still love it. I've had awesome service from Magura too.
For an elegant light wireless occasional use, one of those with a lever under the seat? Had one on my XTC, was great!
Does the Vyron stop halfway or “a bit” down? Or are you clever-weighting while the activation stops while it’s in the right position?
Stops at the top, the bottom and with clever weighting anywhere between the two to get the desired height.
For part way down you hover in the desired position. The valve really isn't open that long so you don't need much of a hover.
I've got one, it takes a bit of getting used to but not much.
Not having to worry about cables getting gunked up is nice. And I can just take it out and put in a fixed post, which I find prefer for the Fenland flatlands (although that's perhaps irrational).
Messing around with dropper posts is one of the bits of packing a bike for a plane journey I always used to hate. Of course these days, that's not really an issue.
It seems a bit particular about the kind of USB charger you should use, no idea what that's about. Some are fine, some do nothing.
Would I get another one? Probably.
Yeah just get one with the lever under the seat.
Sorted.
I hated mine, but still.
Kryton,
I have a Spark and looked into this in some detail. I really wanted the AXS but with the twinlock lever there is no easy way to make it fit. There is a method but requires the purchase of lots of other bits and a bit of creative configuration. I think the Scott team have got it to work but for me it was too much hassle and expensive.
Therefore the next best option was Vyron. I have had one for about 6 months and it has been really good. The remote fits on the bars nicely and now comes with the new cover so works really well. The dropper in operation does have a delay but you get used to it really quickly. I love the ability to remove it and replace with a normal post. If I could have made it work I would have bought the AXS but for the money the Vyron is brilliant and the customer service and reputation sealed it for me.
Hope this helps
Dogsby
Thank @Dogsby, thats made my mind up. I'm going to order one today. Do you or anyone else think 100 or 125mm drop is best? The latter is cheaper so I'd go for that personally, although I'm not a massive drops person.
I'm on a large Spark and am just below 6ft in height so I should have a problem with the length off the post.
Well the Vyron arrived and I'm very happy with it. The remote fits fine above the Twinlock and the delay - on a garden based ride - is easy to get used to...
Thanks for the assist!
Hmmm - I thought Instagram went straight in as a pic...
I’ve had my Vyron for a while. To be honest it wasn’t the delay that took getting used to so much as the fact that you press and release the button for it to move. Doesn’t start to move until the button is released, whereas a cable one moved when the lever is depressed.
I’ve had my Vyron for a while. To be honest it wasn’t the delay that took getting used to so much as the fact that you press and release the button for it to move. Doesn’t start to move until the button is released, whereas a cable one moved when the lever is depressed.