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What are my options for the best wheelset for up to 1k?
either a very light pair climbing wheels or some aero.
Please stw help?
Renolds assault
Chris kings or dt Swiss built on h son achetype from strada
soul wheels
or strada rail
in my opinion 🙂
Hmmm.
Climbing wheels won't actually make much difference going uphill, and aero wheels get blown about when it's windy.
I'd spend half that money and buy some that look nice.
humm moving from 2000g aksiums + wire bead tyres
to 1400g hand builts and decent tyres is a pretty much night and day difference when climbing (by feel, no idea if im actually faster)
[url= http://www.wheelsfar.com/20mm-tubular-wheels940g-30g-p-232.html ]940g[/url], plus plenty of change.
latest Dura Ace C24 running tubeless.
Archetypes are strong but not that light. I run them on the commuter.
No recommendation I'm afraid but I'd be interested to know the benefits of deeper section rims vs lighter weight rims. I've read some manufacturer data but would be interesting to see some independent data say over a 100km route with a 1000m climb.
jesus njee those are cheep 🙂 a feel a new set of these is my next purchase:
http://www.wheelsfar.com/new-38mm-clincher-wheels1250g-30g-p-295.html
No recommendation I'm afraid but I'd be interested to know the benefits of deeper section rims vs lighter weight rims. I've read some manufacturer data but would be interesting to see some independent data say over a 100km route with a 1000m climb.
There are various sources to help out, but real world testing is a bit difficult. My own opinion is that 'lightweight wheels' don't help in climbing as much as people think, and that deep section wheels don't help on the flat as much as people think.
I suspect that if you rode 100km with 1000m climb 10 times, then rode it with lightweight wheels or deep sections, the time differences between the different types of wheels would be the same as the difference between the fastest and slowest runs of the first 10.
I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels (and I liked those wheels a lot), best upgrade ever. Look nice and stealthy too and the breaking power is tremendous.
Aero:
http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/107-50mm-carbon-alloy-clinchers-click-here
Non-aero:
http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/108-new-race24
jesus njee those are cheep a feel a new set of these is my next purchase
Mmm, agreed. Tubs or clinchers though! Tempted by some 1140g 38mm tubs!
Interesting, I have the same wheels and that happens with my bike (Cannondale Synapse Hi-Mod). I put it down to the frame too (or just the ludicrous wattage I was cranking out 😆 ) Didn't consider the wheels flexing - although it causes the chain to rub the front derailleur on mine sometimes (I think). Still, a lot of dough to fix something which doesn't really bother me!I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels
I think I agree with this... I'm sure with those sort of wheels it's all about marginal gains which might be more important if you're racing/TTing. If I were spending that sort of money they'd [i]have[/i] to look the business!Climbing wheels won't actually make much difference going uphill, and aero wheels get blown about when it's windy.I'd spend half that money and buy some that look nice.
although it causes the chain to rub the front derailleur on mine sometimes
Could be chainrings too. S-Works ones used to flex like a bastard.
Interesting, I have the same wheels and that happens with my bike (Cannondale Synapse Hi-Mod).
Its definately the wheels.....had both sets on my old frame, a Cannondale Six and now on the Super Six Hi-Mod. I actually think the upgrade in wheels has had as much impact as the frame, and the frame is a belter.
they are Red so pretty lightweightCould be chainrings too. S-Works ones used to flex like a bastard.
I will definitely upgrade to some more blingy wheels when mine wear out or I break them, very happy with the K Elites though so can't really justify it otherwise!I actually think the upgrade in wheels has had as much impact as the frame, and the frame is a belter.
Have a peek at Cycling Plus this month - it's got a group test of wheels up to £1000. IIRC some Fulcrums won.
Hope Pro3 3.0 Carbon clincher? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=106602
Surely for a grand you could get climbing wheels and some deep section jobbies. I suspect if you are asking this sort of question your probably not going to be noticing the difference between a £500 and £1000 set of wheels anyway.
Surely the question is...
Why are you spending (or prepared to spend) £1,000! on wheels when you dont know if you want climbing wheels or aero wheels???
[beaten to it by ajc]
I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels (and I liked those wheels a lot), best upgrade ever. Look nice and stealthy too and the breaking power is tremendous.
I've used both and couldn't tell much difference. It must be because I'm slow and weak. Never mind.
Edit: Actually I lied - inadvertently - I've used SLs and SLRs, so maybe that explains it. Liked them both, but not impressed by the built-in obsolescence.
I was 1'22" faster on our hilly 10TT course on a £400 of RS80 C24 clinchers with Veloflex masters than I was on £1000 worth of Hope RS5.0s with tubs.
The Hopes roll nicely and there is a feel of them being special, and they certainly look well, but the numbers don't lie.
1'22 faster on a 10TT!! I think the numbers DO lie, or you got lost the previous time 🙄
Once? Proof enough for me....
Lolza, sorry one min and 22 seconds... Yes I didn't go via the next county...
You weren't 1 min 22 seconds faster over 10 miles because of wheels.
Well nothing else changed between one week and the next.
I've been looking at some extralight wheels
The hyperclinch all alloy and clincher 1190g pair
They are to replace my now 8 year old hyperclimb extralights which have been perfect just now rather worn out and I fancy going tubless
You just tried harder. The gains for change of wheels on a tt are fairly marginal. A pointy hat or skin suit have a larger effect. If you had the same result with 5 attempts on each wheel that would be a different matter.
I knew you meant 1min22, thats ludicrous, unless your first time included a stop for a fag break.
Honestly, TT times vary weekly depending on many things, least of all the bike. Just ask the regulars, on a good day the whole field can be 2-3% faster just cos of the weather.
it's aero over-shoes where the real gains are.
i'm not even kidding, a real scientist told me.
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2010/04/biggest-bang-for-your-buck-in-time-trial-equipment/
The suggestion is that aero shoe covers are better than a disc wheel, but I've known that for a long time, and use oversocks when I'm late for the cake shop run...
Re: trying harder, possibly however for more stat goodness that time was a PB.
Two weeks ago I ran with the 50mm in the back due to holed tyre on the clincher and time was 30s slower, this week was with clinchers again and wind and I was 20s slower.
The course is a hilly one and I'm running in around 5th-6th place. Road bike, no aero, cap not helmet.
The wheels worked for me. I'm happy to leave it at that.
I've read good reviews and read good things on forums about cero AR30s from here:
[url= http://www.cycledivision.co.uk/product-info.php?pid133.html ]Linkle[/url]
£350 for 1400g wheels.
They're top of my list for an upgrade when I can afford them.
I was just interested that's all. Wheelsfar looks like its needs some time browsing.
They do look very good! Sorely tempted. They even do newer round profile 38mm/50mm rims.
The 38mm u shape wheelsfar clinchers are sweet 🙂
They are now hanging off my advanced sl
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Those look lovely. Did you weigh them?
Came in at 1270g 🙂
Did you get stung for import tax/duty?
<edit> PM if you prefer
want 🙂
Good weight too. No brainer IMO!
I paid £36 to parcelforce .. Not quite import tax as such the label said handling/presenting to customs etc. ??
I knew about the charge(from my mate who got a set )
£430 wheels delivered(come with blue pads/nice Ti skewers)
£36 parcelforce fee on collection..
I'm blown away with quality/service 🙂
That' looks like good value. Dud you consider their sprints instead?
Plus_one - they do look nice.
I was set on some Miche hubs on Archetypes rims but they are a bit lardy.
What do they ride like?
Any idea what the rider weight limit?