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building a lightweight bike for the so and wanted a real flash light chain....any recos?
kmc x10 sl
X10SL +1
Road or MTB. DLC version if you want bling! Or YBN Ti.
X10SL TiN. Lightweight gold bling. Shifts lovely too
X10 sl is great, but very expensive. SRAM 1091R is good and only 40 quid at the moment. About 15g heavier though (so take a few more links out....).
I have only ever used Dura-ace chains faultless for me
you can get the X10 SL for around £40 on ebay. This is assuming it's 10 speed, otherwise X11 if its for campg 11 😀
Dura ace 7900 is super smooth, mucho good price at rosebikes too.
got an x10 sl from merlin for 36 last week
kmc x10 sl is my choice. I found they last and shift well.
X10 sl is great, but very expensive.
I got one from Taiwan (via eBay), £23 delivered, came in a plastic bag but looks genuine, weighs exactly the same as the one I got from Chickens. Works for me!
Edit: [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KMC-X10-SL-GOLD-CHAINS-TITANIUM-10-SPD-114-LINKS-/360444980289?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53ec31ec41 ]like this[/url].
Out of curiousity, what weight savings are we talking about (promise not to flame you 😀 )
X10SL: 240g
SRAM PC1090: 265g
XTR M980: 259g
SLX: 305g
So 20% over an SLX, or 10% over an equivalent price SRAM/Shimano offering.
A 65gramme saving?
Where can I get me one of these performance enhancing things?
[s]OMFG you frikkin' idiots![/s] Ah OK, thanks for that.
😛
£23 for an X10SL.
That's £1 more than an HG74 on CRC.
65g per pound is pretty bloody good!
A 65gramme saving?Where can I get me one of these performance enhancing things?
65g is more than the difference between an XT and XTR cassette, or between a lightweight and normal tube, or between a £15 stem and a Thomson, or plenty of alu and carbon bars, or changing to ti bolts, or fitting a lightweight bottle cage, or between SLX and XT cranks, or between alu and brass nips, or between M540 and XTR pedals, or between Alpha rims and Open Pros, or Crests and XC717s, or between Pro 2s and XTs, or between a GP Supersonic and a GP 4 Seasons.
And so on.
And how much performance enhancement can I expect when I'm 65g lighter?
...you get the idea, right? It's an inconsequential weight saving, whether it costs a pound or 50p.
And how much performance enhancement can I expect when I'm 65g lighter?...you get the idea, right? It's an inconsequential weight saving, whether it costs a pound or 50p.
but add up all the 65g or so njee has mentioned above and it does become of consequence.
TNF crikey, my old BATTLE LEGEND friend, a lighter bike does feel nicer to ride, even if the speed difference is **** all, and that is a lot of weight saved for £1, even if it is a consumable.
To a point I concur, Mr Al.
I suppose I'm trying to highlight the essentially odd, to me at least, pursuit of lighter bikes by spending on such bits and bobs.
A lighter chain, even by 200g won't have any noticeable affect on anything.
Indeed, but you only get a light bike by cutting weight on everything, as our xcjeyboy buddies above know only too well.
And the bike certainly won't feel any worse for having a lighter chain, so you may as well.
I suppose I'm trying to highlight the essentially odd, to me at least, pursuit of lighter bikes by spending on such bits and bobs.
But the SRAM ones, which I'll wager plenty of people buy are vastly more expensive and heavier. It's not a case of paying extra for lightweight, you don't need to pay as much... Find a SRAM PC1090 for £23.
Of course Crikey I imagine you ride nowt but Deore on a hi-ten steel frame with a solid rod for a handlebar?!
I bet he's faster than you too 😉
Very probable!
Of course I'm not faster than you, I'm a chubby old knobber!
I've been down the lighter stuff route, both in road racing and in mountain bike racing, and my completely unscientific although-backed-up-by-the-physics discovery was that although as Al says light bikes are nicer to ride, and just nicer, you don't really see any real world gains for losing that weight.
I never got to the stage of weighing chains tho..
They may be marginal, and I'm by no means suggesting that a 65g saving gives a measurable advantage, but saving 65g off every component does make a difference. Yes, most people could make a bigger difference by not having that slice of cake, and it is a small difference, but it's there.
ha ha! thanks chaps....loads to look at there...may go for the ti one....ta