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That's not actually technically accurate, is it? I know as I've got the facial scarring to prove it
Probably not but reading things on here and in mags there always seems to be a focus on getting things as slack low and long as possible/make the bike as dull as possible to ride.
What is that?
It looks fairly chunky 🙂
Probably not but reading things on here and in mags there always seems to be a focus on getting things as slack low and long as possible/make the bike as dull as possible to ride.
It's only dull if it isn't steep enough and/or rough enough and/or you aren't riding fast enough!
Much as I'm a hardtail fan, I'd use a full-sus if buying a bike for DH and it would something pretty DH focused (unsurprisingly!) maybe even an actual DH bike.
Ton,
If you want to run long travel forks and use it for dh only then the only frames worth considering are those designed around long travel forks - i.e. those Ragleys.
You'll find people recommending these "ardcore hardtails" like Cotics/Stantons/Chamleleons/Evils etc. but the truth is, they arent designed around long travel forks, and in fact ride much better with shorter forks. Theres the truth.
I had a Dialled Alpine, that was goodun.
thanks for all the idea's guy's.
the ragleys do look like a fave so far.....price is always a factor.
and the btr looks lovely.
Chromag Aperture or Stylus might be worth a look. Think shorelines have the Aperture frames discounted at the moment.
ton - www.darksidezoo.com
Production privee Shan looks good. North west mountain bikes at cheadle had one being built up for a customer last month . It was the limited edition yellow and blue version. Looks good with dh geometry. Price wise more than the cotics etc but about 100 euros less than the btr belter.
Wow I just found [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-dialled-alpine-mk1-1723-and-marzocchi-all-mountain-sl-2006-forks ]this Lovely 823 Dialled Alpine [/url]frame in the classifieds.
Still available, framesavered, mint condition...
I bet you can make the seller an offer 😉
+1 here for the Evil Sovereign
Possibly the best hardtail I've owned. And I've had a few
Plus you can run it ss with the sliding dropouts
does anyone know where i can get a dialled alpine. they are pretty ****ing awsome
I always thought the Duncon Cock was the gnarrest HT frame until I saw that Nicolai.
No idea but I do like this Vid of a guy in whistler with his Chromag gypsy
No idea but I do like this Vid of a guy in whistler with his Chromag gypsy
edit oh poo. repost instead of edit fail
I like my Sovereign, but in no way is it a DH hardtail.
May as well wheel out the 2MXTB pic...
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First choice would be a belter (even though burf still hasn't bloody let me ride it!) as I've seen how fast it is possible to go on a DH hardtail.
Second would be a ragely. As DTF has said, no point getting a frame that can take a 160 fork if the bb is stupidly high and it handles like a bag of shite.
.243 racing used to do a DH hardtail, remember seing one with 888's flying down the bike park in whistler.
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although they don't seem to be making anything other than custom these days.
That dark side looks like it was made by the A team, dialled alpine is a beauty.
Ton, the answer is a DMR exalt mate. completely solid DH tank. Oh,and a set of coil 66's. Don't get a BFe.... ask RobHilton for more details!! 8)
I've this for sale
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-16-ragley-bagger-288-mmmbop-lime-inc-hope-headset ]My Bagger 288[/url]
that Darkside War looks amazing. might have to sell the norco and get me one
^ Too right! Looney bike for doing looney stuff on. I'd be in hospital double quick if I had one 
just looked at the darkside frame, did not notice it when i 1st posted this thread.
looks fantastic, fitted with a set of 180mm forks and some 200mm rotors, it would be pretty ideal for a big un........... 8)
Did you notice the [url= http://www.darksidezoo.com/en/grinder.html ]grinder[/url] takes forks 130 - 200mm 😯 ❗ ❓ and is for "mad people who don´t care about anything."
Also liked the Apocalypse - for Hardcore/Brainless riding
A DMR Exalt yesterday...
I had one in truth it was toss really, should have stuck with my Trailstar really...
Quite like my 456SS now but that's more a trail/all rounder type HT with a nod towards DH use IMO...
But if its a dedicated DH HT Its got to be the BTR for the win, Paul Burford is quite handy on a bike, I'd certainly look pretty seriously at any bike he was involved in designing/building...
chainreaction are selling either the Ragley Troof or Bagger at a great price atm
nick
Ton Ive had a Trailstar and an Exalt, both great but for DH stuff the Exalt is longer, slacker, much chunkier, far better suited to the larger rider. 8)
Had an Dialled Alpine too. Sold it. Shouldn't have.
I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the 24Seven LeToy yet. I've yet to ride a stiffer frame that's more bulletproof. Beautiful machine, comes with a warranty that'll cover SuperMonsters and I'm pretty certain they'll fit Gazzidodi's 3.0in tires.
chainreaction are selling either the Ragley Troof or Bagger at a great price atm
Troof frames are currently £175 on CRC... ****in bargain!
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Just ordered one at that price, Bargain!
Just bought one too!
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At last mine has a proper chainguide that "should" stop the chain coming off 🙄
Don't get a BFe.... ask RobHilton for more details!!
What's wrong with a BFe? 😯
Messiah, is the welding around the ISCG tabs a bit "agricultural" on your Troof? Mine has the look of something that I'm sure functions well but it looks a bit naff.
97 beast of the east ,bomber z1 forks upgrade to Hs33 brakes ,retro fit a dropper post and crank bros iodine 11 saddle ,you wanna ride ? its light, tight and not skitty ,if only i could get some rim brake specific hard core jump wheels ,we nearly there brothers
Messiah, is the welding around the ISCG tabs a bit "agricultural" on your Troof? Mine has the look of something that I'm sure functions well but it looks a bit naff.
Yes, not a thing of great beauty and it looks a funny way to do it with one of the bolt holes set into the down tube, but it is a huge tube and it seems to works fine. I did have to remove the bottom bracket spacer from the drive side and pop it onto the other side to get it all to line up with the E13 LG1+. It's not something I think about now the bike is built and being ridden... enjoy!
Cool, I did think that it's probably fine and once the guide's on there I won't give it any more thought.
Ragley Bagger or Troof i'd say miself..
[i]What's wrong with a BFe?[/i]
The last one I saw had about an 85 degree head angle! 😆
Production prive Shan v rare v special.
[i]What's wrong with a BFe?[/i]
The last one I saw had about an 85 degree head angle!
You talking about this bad boy?
I'm telling you the short wheelbase makes it proper flickable
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[b]Disclaimer: This was not JRA! They are proper strong frames; I'm just proper stupid[/b]
****in 'ell - what'd you do to it?!
norco hardtail rock. like manik squantash few others nearly the same
Is toe overlap an issue on that, Rob, or do you just get used to pedalling to suit?