[Closed] Banshee Spitfire

sorry but been looking at becoming a Banshee dealer in Leeds, was about to go for it, but then just seen the 2015 Trqansition range

Holy moly sweet mother of jesus!

am dribbling still.

as a dealer, i would say better priced and just would say better all round.
wait until you see them !

I loved my Bandit but the Spitfire was/is better. Don't know what the 2015 looks like but it'd have to be a step change in geometry to get there.

the 2015 Trqansition range

Bit more carbon, more middling wheels, some pretty new colours?

Edit: Having said that I would rather like to see a cheaper carbon 650B Trans Am in a nice colour 🙂

totally different bike from last year

new suspension platform, 29er 650b and 26"
and much cheaper frames, carbon may happen in 2015, ally for now.

Seriously Banshee came to us to ask if we would be a dealer, but had to go with Transition.
in my view better bikes

Show/ give us some info/ prices then.

Also, which shop in Leeds? I know a fair few.. (serial browser)

The new Transition proto does indeed look v v nice, [url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/pit-stop-enduro-world-series-round-5-winter-park-2014.html ]clicky ere![/url]

bennn - try York Cycleworks, as they have just started stocking Bansee, and also EDS Bikes (nr Scarborough) normally has them in stock

I know some of the Transition bikes have moved from linkage driven single pivot to four bar this year but the old ones certainly had a very different approach to suspension than the KS-link Banshees - more active and much less efficient under pedalling. My mate's Covert is as bobby as a bobby thing compared to my Spitfire.

we are crosstrax.
havent done anything with transition last few months as importer was a douche, so banshee came in. not knocking banshee i was interested in one for myself, but new transition range and importer has restored my faith, i think they will be brilliant this year

Cheers Argyle BUT YOU ARE FULL OF LIES

They are £1487.50

Ratbags - why didn't they do that a month ago 😀

I had a good blast out on mine tonight and I'm still not satisfied on the suspension set up. Feel free to point and laugh if this is a stupid question, but in the CCDB manual some of settings are described as ''4 clicks" or '4 turns". The click one i get, but what is a 'turn' ? Is it a 1/4 1/2 or full turn 😳
I think I'll need to start experimenting with volume reducers and bottomless tokens on my pikes.

Is there such a thing as too many options?

The small adjusters are in clicks, the large adjusters are in whole turns. Set it to the base tune, get the sag right and if it doesn't ride how you want then refer to the tuning guide and only change one of the six things (pressure, volume, 4xdamping) at a time - and note down what you've done and why and its effects.

All I've done is slowed the HSR by one full turn and am running 30% sag. Took me longer to get the Pike sussed out - 25% sag, one bottomless token, about 6 clicks of LSC, slow-ish rebound (because when you're deep in the travel it's always fast due to the Rapid Rebound circuit). I added another token but then needed more sag and it didn't hold up enough when pushing off lips, so took it back out (after quite a few rides).

It probably takes longer to get a CCDBA set up if you're less middling in size/speed/skill! I'm guessing I needed the slower HSR because I'm not as good at getting big air as the Banshee guys, so I wanted less pop. Still flies high when I dare give it some! 😀

My 2015 Spitfire. Got frame last weekend. Very impressed so far 🙂

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Holy thread resurrection batman!

Nice build though [b]Chipbutty[/b], pretty similar to what I'd have, what's the full spec?

Weight?

Ta!

Must say, picked my 2015 black Spittie up 3 weeks ago. Coming from a Commencal Meta SX. Spittie rides just as good DH but pedals a whole lot better. Did BPW last week including the 2 blacks from the top. Didn't feel underbiked once. Love it!!

Wasn't a fan of the raw but like that a lot Chipbutty.

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Here's mine in its latest spec. Still not a fan of the CTD, would love an inline. How have you found yours CB?

Where are you all getting the 2015 frames from please? If you don't mind me asking..

Hi Bennn, got the frame from Base Camp bikes up at Grantown here in the highlands.
It's a raw large with CC Inline, 150mm Pike, XT chainset (1x10 32t front and 40t rear) brakes and rear mech, Deore pedals, Renthal carbon fat bar, 50mm Nukeproof stem, Reverb stealth, Charge scoop saddle, Hope pro 2 hubs with Stans Arch EX rims, HR2 3C front and Hans Dampth rear both tubeless set-up.
30.5 on the bathroom scales.
Cheers
CB

Thanks Bluearsedfly,
Only had 1 ride on it, hopefully out again later this morning. I've come from. SC solo alloy, this is a little heavier but pedals really well. Feels a lot more confident and stable on the descents, a good bit slacker and longer than the Solo, which is what I wanted.
You enjoying yours? They look great in the Blue. I would have had that colour had they done the 2015 ones that colour.

Bennn. The guys at Pedals in Edinburgh have some in stock and were super helpful for me (though I very cheekily am actually going to pick up Alunms second hand frame on Sunday instead). Def drop Pedals an email.

Just saw this this morning: why buy an alu one when you can build a carbon one? [url= http://happymtb.org/forum/read.php/1/2591796 ]Like this guy.[/url]

(for those who can't be bothered with google-translate and want to skip to the pics: first 1 1/2 pages is people telling the OP not to be stupid, it can never be done, etc, followed by a swift about-turn when he starts posting pics of his build)

Just saw this this morning: why buy an alu one when you can build a carbon one? Like this guy.

(for those who can't be bothered with google-translate and want to skip to the pics: first 1 1/2 pages is people telling the OP not to be stupid, it can never be done, etc, followed by a swift about-turn when he starts posting pics of his build)

Brilliant!

Just had a look on both of their websites, can't instantly see any prices. Will drop them a line Monday as I'm away this weekend.

warpcow - Member

Just saw this this morning: why buy an alu one when you can build a carbon one? Like this guy.

(for those who can't be bothered with google-translate and want to skip to the pics: first 1 1/2 pages is people telling the OP not to be stupid, it can never be done, etc, followed by a swift about-turn when he starts posting pics of his build)

Has anyone got any 26" Dropouts they do not require anymore?

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Can finally join this post as proud owner. Proper first shakedown round the Lakes today. It's brilliant. Climbs better than it ever should and very stable on the descents. Very happy. Running it with my old 26" wheels for now but to be honest in no rush to change at the moment.

(Sorry for instagram phone photo!)

Well if we're posting photos...

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😀

Jesus...that's the biggest mudguard I've ever seen!

The bike looks...mint 😉

I'll take that as a compliment! 😀 It works though!

How are owners finding their bikes over the winter for creaks? My Rune has developed a load of creaks. I'm in the process of stripping the pivots to clean and inspect the bearings. Hopefully bearings are ok. Although cheap I dont want to be doing this regularly.

Mine gets used a couple of times a week, regardless of weather in all sorts of moors gloop etc. I will admit I am a bit of a stifflad when it comes to cleaning it, but up until to now it's still silent.

#kissofdeath

Minty
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Creaks? Just finished building mine and I think as I've put a new chain and cassette on the SS N/W is the cause.

Did read on either MTBR or PB that the Rune pivot holes can become elongated [url= http://forums.mtbr.com/banshee-bikes/2013-spitfire-802889-87.html ]Here - post 2156 [/url]

Wallpaper could do with some paste, looks like you have lost a red grip, a rim, a plastic egg and some 3 prong thingy under your "colourful" seat

Wallpaper is ancient and well pasted down.
Red grip is a foam dart from the Boy's shotgun
3-pronged thing is a metal lizard.
Egg is a Ben-Wa ball.

I'll get a pic of it against the front garden wall and there'll be shit-fits!

I've had my spitfire since Oct. Only thing that's starting to go as far as I'm aware are the CC shock bushings, there's a little play when you lift the bike up. But I'm leaving it for now.

Keith at banshee said most of the problems with bearings wearing quickly was because people try to clean them too much. He said he just waits for mud to dry and brushes it off, which is good because my bike is [s]rarely[/s] never clean.

2015 rune owner here and haven't experienced any creaks, it's a lot quieter than my old lapierre 🙂

A couple of pivots worked loose though so I've had to use a little thread lock which has sorted it.

Doh. Stripped all the pivots, greased the bearings (needed it, and some will need replacing soon). Still creaking. Tightened and cleaned shock bolt, still creaking. Rear dropouts next. One of the bolts was very loose!! great! why didnt I start there lol! Threadlocked now 🙂

I used some PTFE tape instead of locktite on rear dropouts. Never had a problem with creaking. Just gotta make sure you tape it correct way so it doesn't unthread when tightening bolt.

Love the rear mudguard above, handy if you ride past a nice lake in the summer and fancy using an impromptu diving board to go for a dip.

This thread has taken off since I last visited!

[b]Chipbutty[/b] inspired me, and I've been trying to source a 2015 XL Raw all week, but no-one seems to have one, and the distributor hasn't a date for re-stock of raw frames.. 😥

The raw does look nice. Hold out or get a different colour. Totally worth it. Took mine out on a second ride yesterday and got up two climbs in one I normally stop on and the husband is convinced my descending is quicker (can't check strava atm). So impressed. Thanks all for convincing me (in particular Chief) and thanks Alan for selling me your old frame!

Getting dirty now.

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Good news on the banshee, as you could probably tell i absolutely love mine.

What shock has it got? if its a CCDB Inline then it really is worth a bit of fiddling. Patient fiddling 🙂

I was very sceptical with such a huge amount of adjustability but it actually works very well if you take the time to play with it. There is a couple of set up guides on the cane creek site to follow.

Regardless, i really think you made a great choice 🙂

Thanks Mac. Yes it's got the Cane Creek. Damn good. Haven't played as yet but slowly getting my head round the manual and will have a fiddle but at the moment no complaints at all. And like yours the stealthy black looks cool.

Just digging up this thread to say after living with my bike now for a few weeks, I b****y love it. I am so impressed. Well done all for convincing me again! Still a bit to learn with it, but sure I can go faster again!

Should be riding one next week all being well, albeit on demo.

Let's see what all the fuss is about 😆 😉

Ben.