Loving my 29er for what I do (XC mincing) and who I am (6 foot bloke). Think it is great there is a choice in wheel size now, hope that there always is TBH. Feels like we are coming out the dark ages TBH!
[quote=dantsw13]Remember the uk is [s]quite a niche market[/s] always 5 years behind the USA. In the USA 29 is king.
FIFY
Pick a wheel size and be a dick about it.
So are 29er's for tall guys/gals, or are some of you average height (5'9/10"), or shorter ?
With Giant (allegedly) dropping 29er's, i was curious as to whether other manufacturers will follow suit ?
IIRC Giant 'clarified' that statement to say they wouldn't be dropping 29ers, and one of their marketing people had been misquoted.
I always say oooo clown bike good naturely when I see one. Scarily on natural/rocky trails I dont see many.
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29ers never really took off outside of murica, the inflated sales figures for 29ers are because everyone and their dog buys them on cycle to work schemes to plod up and down cycle paths, outside of xc races and surrey they are a bit of a rarity among proper mountain bikers.
Quite the opposite for me, there's loads of them where I ride and with who I ride and we're not all XC junkies
ratherbeintobago - MemberIIRC Giant 'clarified' that statement to say they wouldn't be dropping 29ers, and one of their marketing people had been misquoted.
Yep, it's fairer to say that they said their 29ers aren't that good, and that all the marketing push to get you to buy them over the last few years was cobblers... but you can still buy them if you want.
29ers never really took off outside of murica, the inflated sales figures for 29ers are because everyone and their dog buys them on cycle to work schemes to plod up and down cycle paths, outside of xc races and surrey they are a bit of a rarity among proper mountain bikers.
That's not actually true though, is it?
Taking a stroll through Cannock today and saw more 29ers and fat bikes than anything else really.
Taking a stroll through Cannock today and saw more 29ers and fat bikes than anything else really.
Does that mean I'm "niche" on my 26" wheeled bike ?
26 may well be all but dead for new bikes, all the 2014 Carrera MTBs (inc. Subway) are 27.5, and Halfords already do a £150 29er. I know you lot don't care about such things but if the biggest bike retailer in the country is going 27.5 then it says a lot. 26 will still be supported obviously, there's so many of them about.
Bloody hope not, just spent 1500 quid on my first 29er. Had a 26 before but didn't and still don't see much point in 650b/27.5's
Interesting times. The 26 everyone generally feels warm and fuzzy over. 29 has polarised the market. 27.5 who knows really what people think? They all have their intended application.
Just made the leap to 29 wondering where it's been all my life. Interesting thing is what I like about it so much is what is supposed to put people off - no more bloody trail buzz 🙂 I now only feel what I need to not every little root branch & pebble. Also Epping forest was almost all 26 but out walking the trails with the kids today seen at least half & half on 26 & 29
hora - MemberI always say oooo clown bike good naturely when I see one. Scarily on natural/rocky trails I dont see many.
they are great on the pebbles at Cannock though
Fizzles, sizzles, smokes aargghh dont mention my Kryptonite
Rode my 29er FS (Trance) into the top 25% of my second ever Gravity Enduro last weekend. It was ace and very much alive.
All my mates ride 29ers, none of us want to go slower so they'll be here to stay in our west country enclave.
Got a Rigid 29er. Would only choose 29 for a rigid.
Would quite like a 650b trail bike though…
29ers never really took off outside of murica, the inflated sales figures for 29ers are because everyone and their dog buys them on cycle to work schemes to plod up and down cycle paths, outside of xc races and surrey they are a bit of a rarity among proper mountain bikers.
it is where i live and ride, and just about every distributor i spoke to at corebike and bikeplace last week said the same thing, 29er trail bikes above about £1000 simply dont sell outside of the south of england.
Got three 29ers, one of them is geared ht,the other two rigid single speed, love big wheels. Haven't used geared one since October.
South of England are either early adaptors or buy the next fad-types.
Who knows which. Time will tell
Scarily on natural/rocky trails I dont see many.
Meanwhile, on the other side of Manchester, I see increasing numbers grinding up the hill past my house, in the general direction of Lee/Cragg.
Seen a lot up here tbh- I think once everyone got over the "they're for XC" thing and realised they're good for smashing over rocks. Watching the MTBCut guys on their Five 29s is just ridiculous.
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dantsw13 - Member
Remember the uk is quite a niche market. In the USA 29 is king.The UK bike market is one of the biggest in the World. Including kiddies bikes 3 million units were sold in 2012. In Europe only the German market is bigger.
But compared to the USA?
Been out on my 29er HT today, long uphill drags and fast rocky descents both dealt with easily. I still love my Cindercone and Reign 26ers. Don't think i need or want a 650b.
Plus i am average height 5/10 and fits me fine 🙂
it is where i live and ride, and just about every distributor i spoke to at corebike and bikeplace last week said the same thing, 29er trail bikes above about £1000 simply dont sell outside of the south of england.
I live in the south of England, and i only know 1 person with one..... ?
29er's, Clown bikes... Proportions all wrong, just don't look right..
650b... Coz that's what the manufacturers/media folks "reckon" we need !
26...ain't much wrong them is there ??
Ive seen a few out in the wild, but not that many, out of a group of 20 or so riding mates I only know 1 person who had one (rumblefish) and he sold it for an SB66C Id quite like to try one, maybe a nice fast hardtail for xc type stuff.
Trouble is my new 650b bike is so much fun Im in no rush to do so
infact my poor 26in dh bike is not seeing any action these days either
with 2 kids my commuter sees the most action and off road ive committed to a lot of enduros, megavalanche etc this year
my rambling point is that my mtbing time is relatively restricted and a tweener [shudderrs] bike seems to fit the bill even if it might be compromised for some stuff
who needs wagon wheels!
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saying all that I reckon i might look out for a s/h dh bike and 29 hardtail on the cheap
it is where i live and ride, and just about every distributor i spoke to at corebike and bikeplace last week said the same thing, 29er trail bikes above about £1000 simply dont sell outside of the south of england.
Good for you.
I live in the North and can confirm that there's plenty of 29er trail bikes above about £1000 on the moors and at the trail centers round here.
Don't confuse me with a fan boy either. I have 29er trail bikes above about £1000 as I fancied a change from my 26" and was bored of getting dropped by my friends on 29ers. I'm yet to be won over as it's brilliant 95% of the time but I miss the 5% where the 26" was better.
I use to look at 29ers and think they looked all wrong, but I really rate my Unit. I also enjoy razzing about on my Pitch.
Wheel size alone does not maketh the bike.
650b won't kill 29ers if it takes off as a wheel size . It will be mostly replacing 26". I suspect that Giant going into 650b so heavily was because the major US brands all had been doing 29ers for a fair bit longer and had better and easier to sell 29ers than Giant who then had the choice to play catch up or roll the dice with 650b .
A 650b will always be a compromise to a 29" so if common sense prevails they'll be around for good,
Mine's in the shed. It's not moving but I don't think it's dead. I think it's hibernating, while the fatbike takes over for the winter.
Well done you, what's your next pointless buy that'll revolutionise your riding going to be?
Just seen this topic 8 months on from the last comment. It's easy to be smart in hind sight, I can see where the majority are coming from when looking back. Just wondering where attitudes stand now when it is obvious that 650b (whether through clever marketing by the manufacturers or because we the buyers did find them to be to our liking) is now 9 months on from this debate kicking off, very much the "here and now" wheelsize.
Being completely honest 2 years ago I had a 26" and bought a 29er, ran the two, loved the scenario and thought 650b fell between the two stools so not for me. Two years on I have sold the 26" (no surprise there I can here a few of you say) but I have also sold the 29er, a Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc, very much the dogs do-dahs 2 years ago and now run just the one bike. After attending a demo day I was instantly taken with 650b and still love the wheel size. Will I go back to 26"? never! Will I go back to 29? maybe but only as a short travel hardtail I suspect.
people still innovating @ 29 so still not dead, 26 ain't dead either
They were dead....
santacruzblues,
What bike did you get pls ? (650b)
Like my 29er. Virtually all my riding friends have 29ers, but they're all XC racers, so not that surprising.
They're not going anywhere.
haha.. always late to the party.. I have only just got myself around to buying a Niner and apparently they are dead? 🙂
I've bought another 29er since this thread has been living in history. 🙂
this year ive bought a 29er and a 650ber
they are both great bikes
thats mostly coz Kona are ****ing excellent
Just bought a Trek Fuel Ex29er. Very different from the Bfe, bup it's growing on me. Silly quick and pretty comfortable both up and down. According to some comments though I appear to be riding it wrong. I don't live in the south and mainly ride it around the Peaks and throw it down hill with abandon.
As dead as it's possible for a world series winning bike to be...
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I've bought 650b wheels, borrowing a 29r for some racing, riding 26 but then again who cares.
650b for whatever reasons has eclipsed 26" going forward, in a tough industry fighting the lone fight is a quick way to go out of business. Forget all the bitterness and anguish just get over it.
29" is still a baby in development terms and will continue to evolve as people work out how it works in longer travel forms.
In simple terms there is now more choice available which is a good thing, there are people trying new things, some will work some will be dog shit but again more choice.
Compared to 10 years ago look where we have come to, you can get decent tough AM bikes that are easily sub 30lb on real scales, bikes you can ride up all morning and down all afternoon. Full sus XC bikes that are competitive with the HT's.
With the minor blip of 650 vs 26 passing it's a great place to be as a consumer.
