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[Closed] Arch Mk 3 rim.... can't get tyres on!!

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So I have a set of the Arch Mk3 rims. They look great and the guy that built them said they were a joy to build... so all good right??

Wrong.

I am trying to mount Schawlbe tyres on them..... 3 hours of blood, sweat (lots of sweat!) and not so much tears as moments of maniacal rage and I get one on... of course in the melee I forgot to put any jollop in there.

Two hours later and I still can't get the damn thing off enough to add some.

So has anyone got some of these rims? What tyres are you running and how was it getting them on?

My concern is that if I get a problem out on the trail i'm fubarred!!

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Posted : 10/07/2016 11:08 am
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Just remove the valve core and use a syringe.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 12:28 pm
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Thanks but I guess the question is what brand of tyres goes onto these rims easily?

I now have the jallop in but I am more concerned with how I would deal with having to get a tyre off on the hill.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 12:32 pm
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Don't take the tyre off, use the anchovie repair thingys


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 12:35 pm
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[url= http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-maintenance/bike-tools/schwalbe-bike-tyre-levers-set-of-3 ]set of these badboys will see you right[/url]


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 12:49 pm
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I know what you are going through...but don't despair. Maxxis folding tyres fit fine, I have fitted crossmarks and beavers without any issue. Started opposite the valve and used washing up liquid to get them to bed in. I could get nowheere near with schwalbes.

Nextdaytyres have some good prices on maxxis at the mo.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 1:00 pm
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As above, start opposite the valve...if tyres are new mount them on another set of wheels using tubes, inflate to maximum recommended pressure and leave overnight, then try again on the Stans.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 4:53 pm
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Taking them off: start at the valve, making sure the rest of the bead is pushed down into the rim well.

Putting them on: start opposite the bead and again make sure the bead is pushed down in the rim well to give you extra slack by the time you get to the valve.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 4:57 pm
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Thanks AD, so Maxxis will go on.

Thanks all,it turns out that Scwalbe tyres, especially Super Gravity won't go on without a massive struggle... then getting them off is even harder.

I now have them on and jollop in, they are also Procored as I am setting the bike up for a month in the Alps.

There is no way I am taking them off till one gives up now but I will grab some Maxxis to take with me.... bit gutted as I bought 6 blooming tyres to see me through the next year or so!!

Now to figure out what Maxxis to get.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 5:12 pm
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That's a bit of a turn off if you can't mount Schwalbes on em . ๐Ÿ˜


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 5:44 pm
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Yeah... it was a SG so wondering if it might have been a bit easier with a SS.

You know I am no lightweight, literally 5 hours of serious toil, a pretty good workout!!

Hoping that the fact they are SG and Procore means they will just stay on the bike till the end of August with no issues.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 5:57 pm
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I had no problems getting my Schwalbes (albeit used ones) onto new mk3 flows.........


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 6:01 pm
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I got a set of SG tyres on my mk3 arches no problem, as difficult as the flow ex they replaced which is to say no problem. Haven't ridden them though due to crashing just before their maiden ride. So brand new re-build on my hope hubs sat ready to go and nobody to ride them ๐Ÿ™ gutted.

Hand built by the awesome Llandegla boys on DT Swiss spokes. Look awesome.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 6:07 pm
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The Procore will make it harder as it is taking up the rim well.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 6:56 pm
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watch the pro core video.....


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 8:23 pm
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I spent about 16 hours in total trying.
A HR2 went on, wouldn't sit properly on the rim. It wouldn't fit evenly across the rim. Ran like a bad buckle. Nor would it seal properly. I broke a really robust tyre lever trying to remove it. Ended up using a really blunt flat screwdriver to remove it.
tried on and off 3 times.
Went to WTB Vigilante similar difficulty. Wouldn't seal, nor sit evenly. Eventually gave up. Went to LBS, bought a new back wheel Alex rim assembled in England. Got it home set it up tubeless in about 25 mins.
Stans Arch was hung up in shed and sworn at.


 
Posted : 10/07/2016 8:24 pm
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I have an old Crest 21mm rim which is really difficult to get tyres on. One of the most difficult rims to mount tyres on but once on they seal up fine. You really do have to get the bead into the centre channel with them.

Was the Arch in question @chrissyharding the Mark 3 26mm wide internal or the older 21mm one? I suspect it was the older one which is very similar looking to the old Crest.

Flow EX (25.5mm internal) has always been really nice to work with and the new Arch Mk3 2016 seems to be no different. It looks suitably side at 26mm internal and the new rim profile looks really nice.

I'm still yet to ride the Arch Mk3 Hope Hub wheels due to injury! 5th week off the bike ๐Ÿ™ Argh!

Good little write up on PB about [url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/stans-no-tubes-factory-tour-2016.html ]Stans[/url]. I didn't know they were such a small company. They certainly seem a lot bigger. They make great wheels so good on them. Would love me a set of their Bravo Carbon wheels one day.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 3:10 pm
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Given by your own admission you're a big lad, an Arch EX is a strange choice for pro-core and a month in the alps isn't it? Or have they got tougher since the Mk2 Arch?


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 3:57 pm
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using flows and crest here. No issue with hans damfs at all. Unless you use gorilla tape which makes them a little more tricky.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 4:09 pm
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Oooh. It's 2012 all over again with Schwalbes not going on Stans! ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 6:03 pm
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A little update.

So the Arch Mk 3 rims with Procore have just done a month in the Alps including the Trans Savoie...

No punctures and just one quick tweak to 2 spokes.

Happy man.


 
Posted : 28/08/2016 10:42 am
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Excellent - but what tyres did you use ???


 
Posted : 28/08/2016 12:42 pm