Anyone ridden the Mojo Nicolai yet?

Catvet , only a figure of speech, not a slight on other bikes

Just really giving the Geometron some thought, most likely the G13 130/140mm version. I'm 6ft2 with short legs and long torso/arms. Can't quite decide how long to go.

Even the 'smallest' G13 would have a reach figure similar to my current 'large' transition.....

Anyone give me some feedback either on your height and what size you went for or how you decided what length to go for?

Groundskeeperwilly you will want at least a Longest.
An XL would be the automatic size choice based on height and I'd recommend trying both but Ongest would work well,

I ride a Longest at 5'11". A former singletrack rster also rides one at 5'8" but that is stretching it and ideally he'd prefer a lower ST.
Another friend is happy on an XL at 6'

Thanks Chainline, Longest was my assumption. I'm sure I saw some pics of Longest or XL's in here somewhere that I can trawl back to!

Mrs stu's Longer G16 is final here.
Had a couple of rides on it so far and really likes it.
Given her confidence to ride a couple of features she's always shied away from. 😀

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If you order a G16 with fork and shock without doing the £200 demo day, do you get off the shelf suspension? Or can you still get a specific set up for the kind of riding you intend to do? Obviously, just as a starting point for further refinement but not starting from scratch with production suspension.

In the past I've been pretty disappointed with the Fox stuff on new bikes until they've been to Mojo to be made more supportive.

I bought a frame, shock and fork and they've helped me with setup and re valved my fork.
Didn't do a test day as such but did get to try one out with Paul.
The service I've received so far has been just brilliant.
nothing seems too much trouble for them when it comes to getting the bike right for you.

I'd echo what Stu said. Paul and Mojo are excellent to deal with.

They've even offered recently for me to drop in and fine tune my suspension settings.

Best service I hVe had when buying a bike!

What stem lenght are people running on these?

Majority seem to be using 32 - 40mm. My demo had a hope 35mm stem from memory.

Thanks Howdoo. I thought that was the case, but couldn't find the info on this mahoosive post!!

30-35mm stem typically, occassionally up to 40mm

That looks lovely Stu, seen it on Instabang. Super glad she gets the confidence. Exactly what has happened with my daughter.

And yes, buying any combination beyond just a frame gets you the Mojo tune of your choice for the suspendy parts and they will continue to help with setup as and when you need it (within reason of course!)

By within reason I mean you might not expect free revalving and rebuilds two years down the line but tuning advice and diagnosis if you're having setup issues yes.

I just had a very expensive email exchange with Paul. Might have a new arrival soon.

Until then...
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Awesome! SharkAttack I'm green with envy!

Might have a new arrival soon

You can't get pregnant by email 😀

Go on, what exactly have you ordered?

I'm still dreading the email from steveh saying he's selling his.

G16 Longest. Frame, fork, shock and transfer post. In shiny raw alloy.

I still have to send him my particulars to have the bouncy bits correctly tuned but it's bought and paid for.

I've been riding mountain bikes for 20 years and I've never had a proper, all new, custom build. If I hadn't accidentally crash landed back in the bike industry last year then I couldn't afford any of it so I'm gonna grab it while I can.

Oh arse! I forgot to ask if they had any of those fancy Kashima top caps in stock...

excellent.

podge - dodgy hamstring so not ridden the longer yet, it'll come soon 😉

Good lady wife tested the daughters NotSoLong at the weekend. loved it. She's 5' tall. Felt very confident, especially over the front. First time I've seen her brave enough to properly commit to the front in loose corners.
Length was never mentioned.

It's been a while since she has ridden due to injury.

She then went on her current bike (Knolly Warden( which is pretty on trend and not so short at that end of the spectrum as a Small (580mm ETT, 408mm reach approx). Feedback was it felt kinda high and she was much less confident over the front and felt less stable going into corners. This was rapidly followed by doe eyes and the request to get the wallet out..

This is both good and bad. The good bit is the NotSoLong is clearly good for someone of 5'. Target size is from 4'10 or so up to 5'5".
The bad is obviously regarding the wallet.

Looks like I'll be putting a minty Warden up for sale soon..

The good bit is the NotSoLong is clearly good for someone of 5'

That is interesting. What length of dropper post was fitted and what was the saddle height? Do you hav a picture you could post of the bike as it was setup for your wife?

Thanks

I do LAT, 150mm dropper fitted with 1.5" of exposed post. As mentioned I designed it to be able to work with people from 4'10 with a 100mm dropper.

Running 155mm cranks here (we can also source 150mm from a certain well known British brand)

From ground height is 92cm
From centre of pedal crank 73cm - 76cm (to front of saddle - to centre of saddle intersect with centre of seatpost i.e. longest measurement)

Seatpost has 6cm to top of collar, about 3.75cm to bottom of collar (LEV, fairly tall collar compared to say a Transfer)

If you want more specifics just PM me, I have the drawings etc.

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Wife,

Daughter (5'2")
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Good friend based in Hebden (5'2")
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Saddle up
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So glad I went for raw instead of black. I love black bikes but this is so shiny in the flesh and it shows all the details.
I'm not one to gush about bikes but now that I've got it, I'm pretty excited about it. It's a beautiful bit of machinery and it's already got about 20 different sets of finger prints all over it. All those big, fat welds and machined bits had everyone touching, poking and rubbing it before I could get it stashed.

That's it for now. A big box of Hope goodies should land tomorrow and it'll be bike shaped tomorrow night. I might have to wait for pay day for bars, stem, saddle, drivetrain etc...

I've been riding a steel hardtail for 4 years I am literally gagging to smash through some rock gardens.

Looks great that.
You're going to love it.

@chainline

Many thanks for pics and measurements.

Hi all,

I've bought myself an extra longest g13 frame! It's all built but I have couple of questions for the collective wisdom.

It's a raw frame and arrived lovely and shiny. After building it it has started to discolour. Any hints on how to keep it shiny?

It came without a shock so I've bought a Cane Creek double barrel air climb switch. Has anyone used one on a geometron any Base tunes you would care to share?

Cheers all!

Using a DB air without the switch on an Ion 16 GPI, and using the settings off their Web site for the Ion 16, seems good so far, just added 1-2 click on the low speed compression to aid peddling from memory.

Any hints on how to keep it shiny?

Thanks and thanks.

Mine was second hand, so no cleaning pad included. Would one of the green kitchen pads be OK?

Cheers

Martin

Mine is brand new and didn't come with any cleaning products. I wasn't expecting any. I bought raw because I was thinking if it looks like crap in a years time I'll pay for a decent paint job.

Would one of the green kitchen pads be OK?

No! I learned this lesson as a toung man when I destroyed an Azonic Shorty stem. I'm still upset by that.

Martin - I suspect yours has been buffed like mad to get it ready for sale. You'll never keep it that way so I'd just let it dull slightly. Different parts of the frame will look slightly different shades of alu, some shinier, others duller for want of a better way of describing it. That said, by discolour what do you mean, its not going green is it?!

But mine did come with the dark red scouring pad. Sharkattack - you've missed out 😀

Oh and a tip is to put some of the rubber 3M tape you use for quietening down chainstays under the cable clamps on the downtube. It stops the cables moving and rubbing the bare alu.

tall_martin - it want the one off eBay last week was it?

Thanks! I'll avoid the green pads then 🙂

It's not going green. Just not super shiny. I have a cannondale Road frame i thought was raw, clearly it's just painted silver.

I've got some 3m helicopter tape comming and I was planning on using that to avoid cable rub. I do love a quiet bike so I might give the rubber tape ago.

Yep, off ebay last week.

I have a cannondale Road frame i thought was raw

A lot of 'raw' frames are actually lacquered - not all aluminium alloy copes well with being left unfinished.

Not being able to afford a shiny new bike I try my best not to get sucked into "shiny new bike" syndrome knowing that I will always be the limiting factor. Being bloody short (5 ft) helps that as other than full custom very few off the peg bikes look like they will fit me and have geometry that I'd like. This thread, however, is making it extremely difficult since the NoSoLong has come up. That looks bloody awesome for a shortarse like me. Grrrr and damn you Chainline. New 2018 Transitions look good too for shorter people too with nice short seat tubes but decently long reach and wheelbase. Damn it. How much do kidneys go for these days? I need to stay off the internet and get on my perfectly functioning old bike more.

I need to get you a test on it Littleman. I've just been struggling for time. It's on the list.

For those with raw frames. It's a scotchbrite pad hat is normally included and you need to get to bring the std finish back.

You can polish it with auto Sol if you want or use a scoured or wire wool. All will give a slightly different finish to it.

Great to see so many excited people about the bike. Can't wait to hear the ride stories and see some pics.

Sharkattack there should have been a scotchbrite in with the spare mech and the cable guide clips/stealth plugs bag.
If you haven't got it or that bag of gubbins, check the box and bubble wrap and if you can't find it ring Mojo and get one sent. You will need to confirm the mech hanger offset (if any) it's engraved on the inside of the hanger.

jes,

I've not used one on a GeoMetron but based on experience I would start with it Set up fast and with minimum compression damping, 50% open LSC and 80% open HSC
What air can do you have?

I've got a bag of bits and bobs. A spare mech hanger is a nice bonus, grommet for the dropper, cable ties and stuff. Definitely no scotchbrite pad. Today I pulled all the bubble wrap apart and there's nothing there. I'll pick one up but if it wasn't mentioned here I never would have known about it.

My Hope and Shimano stuff arrived at work today but I didn't have a spare minute to do anything with it. Hopefully it'll be rolling tomorrow then I'll decide on a bar, stem and saddle. I think that's all I need now.

Only a couple of quid for scotchbrite.

Chainline, apologies, I wasn't fishing at all, just genuinely really liking the look of the bike!

Thanks Chainline and Jes.

I have the standard air can (I think).

I started of with the standard normal settings in the cane creek manual as these were exactly the same as the one recomended for the ion 15 on the cane creek site.

I've added a bit of LSC and an bit of HSC after a short ride round some local woods for a shake down.

First impressions (of someone who has the full new bike excitement!)

On the flat- very long, fine on the flat twisty bits
On the steep ups- climbed like it had one gear lower. All the bits came straight off my previous frame, so this was an ace surprise. I cleaned a slippy steep bit standing- very unexpected as every other bike I've had has spun out if I stood here.
On the not so steep down- easy to get to grips with, was great.

No steep down or jumps.

It didn't feel too "big" for my flatish local trails, which I thought it might.

Off to Bike park wales for a proper ride tomorrow 🙂

Thanks Martin. Let us know how u get on at bpw. I doubt the geometry will hold you back. What seems large on paper spreadsheet disappears on the trail.

This is all I got done today. Seatpost routed, discs mounted and a bloody tubeless set up that absolutely refused to hold air. I'll get back on it tomorrow if I get a chance. It's starting to look the part now though.
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And this is what it looks like next to a Giant Glory DH bike that happened to be passing through. Both back wheels against the wall and the Geometron way out in front.
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Also, I've got a Hope 83mm BB that has massive cups. Normal hollowtech tool doesn't fit and I couldn't find anything that did so I need to track one down before I go any further. Wasn't expecting that.