No one should be that lucid with a hang-over! Interesting post though. That certainly explains the common 'in the bike' feel reported by 29 testers.
That tall bike picture... I am actually in the background on a 1930s post office bike. It was a lovely clunker gathering at a cider farm near Ross on wye.
Chunkolini is on a 26" tall bike, mrs Jarvis then rode this bomb hole on a 26" full sus and broke her ankle at the bottom, didn't even make it to the jump, howled like an injured whale.
(Really I am not making this up)
Conclusive proof that beards are more important than wheels.
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Singlespeed_Shep - Member
I have a feeling the single speed boys are upset!
Sweetheart,[b] never heard a fellow singlespeeder complain about technology or wheelsize being pushed.[/b]
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Well that will simply be cos u singlespeed boys can't ride hard enough to appreciate what a good set up is! And only ride singlespeed for the novelty of it trying to prove to full suss boys that u don't need suspension...but really it gives u the excuse to ride so shit...I think u and simpleStu are the same troll yeah?? Am I right sweetie? 😆
Anyway.. Can we forget about all this nastiness towards each other?? It's getting rather childish wouldn't one say? And after all, we're all lovers of two wheels aren't we love?? 😀
Over and out, pussy. 🙂
JCL, I know you appreciate the geometry benefits a 29er can have. How about 12-15mm (up to 20mm) increase in BB drop compared to a 26"? 15mm variance on a 26" felt worthwhile. Not worth changing bikes for, but maybe of interest to someone who likes a bigger wheel from experience on a 29".
I see 650B as a tweaked 26" - I like that bit extra but it's certainly not the difference going between 26" and 29" makes.
Yep you're right about the BB drop and they'll definitely have advantages over 26" from that. But is it enough to make it worth killing off 26" and making everyones bikes obsolete? Imagine if you've just bought a S-Works Enduro 26" and the model was canned next year for 650b.
Jesus, JCL talks some utter shite.
Don't be a player hater.
26" is dead IMHO unless your tiny or a small female...........such as Mrs TLR on her Juliana.....
What's the benefit of going slower in less comfort if you can go faster in more control ?
I'm not really bothered which way the market goes - despite the haters' paranoia the production of MTBs is not a cartel and the purchasing public control what is made, although there's always a time lag between demand and production.
All the talk of greater stability through larger wheels tends to omit the converse of stability which is agility - and part of the agility puzzle is also feedback and thus control. So a bike with greater self-stabilisation only works up to a point. Beyond that point the rider struggles to both detect external forces and provide corrective forces of sufficient magnitude to stay in control.
I like big tyres on my 26er (27" OD which is the same as 650b with more typical tyres), I've ridden with enough 29er riders to know they work on really twisty singletrack and I love riding my 20" BMX and take it off-road frequently (a BMX on a rough bridleway feels like a 26" hardtail in a rock garden!) My next MTB will most probably be a ~160mm 26er FS or a rigid singlespeed 29er...
Funny, I reckon 29 is just for giants. 26 is for the normal amongst us. I don't think 650b will survive. 26 certainly will, I'm sure.
+1 to what wrecker said. 650B doesn't help the tall ones and that is how the population is changing. Women and smaller guys (inc me) are well suited to 26. No need for 650 - not as good for rolling over the bumps not as quick to steer - just in the middle
No need for 650 - not as good for rolling over the bumps not as quick to steer - just in the middle
Or the other way round better for rolling over bumps quicker to steer.
Thats a bit glass half full or glass half empty
As a 6 footer, 650 should be the size I'm interested in, but I'm a bit "meh". I've already tried a 29 and didn't like it, I think they're just fixing something which isn't broken to generate sales.
Funny, I reckon 29 is just for giants. 26 is for the normal amongst us. I don't think 650b will survive. 26 certainly will, I'm sure.
How is 26" going to survive when you can only buy crap forks and rims/tyres? The writing is already on the wall. Scott have all but removed 26" from the range. Norco, Rocky and soon Santa Cruz will do the same. Specialized and Giant are pushing 29" as they don't see growth in 26".
Give it a year.
Over and out, pussy
I'm a bit dissapointed that you've not rolled out your other troll account so you can agree with [s]yourself[/s] each other. 😐
On a semi serious note.
Your vids are great.
Maybe make a few more. 🙂
As long as there's demand (and I don't think I'm alone in not liking big wheels) there'll be supply. They can "push" all they like, it's just the industry big boys trying to push us around. The less faceless bike co's will make what riders want.
As a 6 footer, 650 should be the size I'm interested in, but I'm a bit "meh". I've already tried a 29 and didn't like it, I think they're just fixing something which isn't broken to generate sales.
You're totally correct regarding 650b.
A analogy is wanting to buy a current supercar with a clutch and manual shift. Even though people still want them the option has been removed from the market.
Unless there is mass takeup of the new wheel sizes over the next couple of years I can see considerable back tracking of the big manufacturers.
The other thing that could happen is that the smaller manufacturers don't change and start challenging the bigger fish in the pond
The other thing that could happen is that the smaller manufacturers don't change and start challenging the bigger fish in the pond
It was the small fish* that started the big wheels turning...
*With the help of one big fish[i]er[/i].
I see the point for 29 for XC racey type stuff and mahoosive peoples. For everything else, 26 is all we need.
singlespeedstu - Member
Over and out, pussy
I'm a bit dissapointed that you've not rolled out your other troll account so you can agree with yourself each other.
On a semi serious note.
Your vids are great.
Maybe make a few more.
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No, I don't have anymore trolls but I'm sure yours will be along shortly ole shepy boy! 😉
I'm glad you liked my vids though...I feel honoured, thank you sir..
Ah, Harmony amongst the single speeds! It brings a tear to the eye;-)
Well that will simply be cos u singlespeed boys can't ride hard enough to appreciate what a good set up is!
I'm not a middle class audi driver so can't afford all the fancy gizmos.
but really it gives u the excuse to ride so shit...
I am shit at riding a bike, so bad you wouldn't believe.
I think u and simpleStu are the same troll yeah?? Am I right sweetie?
No but I aspire to be him, one day I think I might make it.
Anyway.. Can we forget about all this nastiness towards each other??
I hadn't been nasty at all, just flirty My Sweets. Trying to pull myself a richboy. 😉 XXX
You coming to Dorset?
I'm glad you liked my vids though...I feel honoured, thank you sir..
No i do really think they're great.
Maybe stick to doing them at least they're entertaining.
You and Fairhurst must spend hours doing them. 😉
A Whyte 29er with 650 wheels
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what you can't see is how the frame was butchered to fit them.
Singlespeed_Shep - Member
Well that will simply be cos u singlespeed boys can't ride hard enough to appreciate what a good set up is!
I'm not a middle class audi driver so can't afford all the fancy gizmos.
but really it gives u the excuse to ride so shit...I am shit at riding a bike, so bad you wouldn't believe.
I think u and simpleStu are the same troll yeah?? Am I right sweetie?No but I aspire to be him, one day I think I might make it.
Anyway.. Can we forget about all this nastiness towards each other??I hadn't been nasty at all, just flirty My Sweets. Trying to pull myself a richboy. XXX
You coming to Dorset?
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Aye ups! He's here!! Ole shep has come to save the day! I would love to come down to Dorset, show you southerners how to ride a bike properly... Don't worry though, I won't charge like that Jedi boy! 😉
singlespeedstu - Member
I'm glad you liked my vids though...I feel honoured, thank you sir..
No i do really think they're great.
Maybe stick to doing them at least they're entertaining.
You and Fairhurst must spend hours doing them.
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Yeah I hear fairhurst is entering the peatys steel city, might be a challenge their for u that aye! 😉
Yeah I hear fairhurst is entering the peatys steel city
Make sure you write the correct name when you sign on. 8)
singlespeedstu - Member
Yeah I hear fairhurst is entering the peatys steel city
Make sure you write the correct name when you sign on.
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I'm sure the jolly fella will. 8)
Aye ups! He's here!! Ole shep has come to save the day!
I like that 🙂
I would love to come down to Dorset, show you southerners how to ride a bike properly
I'm North Yorkshire Born and Bread.
Cheers for the entertainment pussyhurt.
Cheered me up on a weekend without any pedlin. 😐 😀
No probs [s]guys![/s] guy!
🙂