[Closed] 650b no difference???

You hadn't heard then?

It may feel the same, but your life is actually much betterer now thanks to having 650b in it

I found more traction on the ups, cornering and rolls better but I dont think there is a huge difference. But enough

Clearly, 650B is 4% better.

The only thing i can find that makes an immediate, obvious and fundamentally better bike is a new set of these:

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😉

If you'd glanced behind you, then you would have noticed the trails were alive 😉

Haha gonna save those legs...it does concern me though when I hear SC isn't making 26 by the end of 2015.. If mine wasn't a warranty job, I wouldn't have suckered in. So what small company's are gonna be making 26.. Orange? Nukeproof? I don't think they are

If you like your new bike who cares about the wheel size, just get out and enjoy it 😉

Go and read some marketing crap, and then go ride your bike, you will not fail to see just how good 650b is.

"No shit Sherlock" 😆

What Normal Man said. What is it with mountain bikers? Its not all about you, you know. I'll wager if you'd glanced behind you for just a moment you'd have seen scenes reminiscent of the image below.

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From the scripture

Some of the negativity on here will surpass once realised it is the way forward for mountain biking

I love mine I must say really brings the trail alive

We recently loaned a 650B Five to a mate who was unable to access his 26" version, didn't mention it to him, and he didn't even notice.

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New bikes are always faster, its in the rules. If you didn't notice it, then stick with the proper wheelsize of 26.........

I couldn't notice a specific difference at first as the bikes were so different in nearly every way but now I've got used to the new bike and can compare it subjectively with the 26er I do think the 27.5 wheels are better, sorry for not agreeing with the stick in the muds

it's bike riding, end.of.story.

I couldn't notice a specific difference at first as the bikes were so different in nearly every way but now I've got used to the new bike and can compare it subjectively with the 26er I do think the 27.5 wheels are better, sorry for not agreeing with the stick in the muds

Are they more better or less better than 29ers?

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks 26 is going the same way as a dodo so just get used to it and think about the future.

I've still not ridden many. I couldn't tell any difference with the ones I have, though some were really good bikes.

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Sorry kitten

Recently I test rode a 29er & a 650b bike.

My observations - the 29er was quick, but I would expect £4000 carbon XTR 100mm travel bike to be quick.
The 650b was fun, but I would expect a £2500 150mm travel bike to be fun.

I rode home on my 26" bike. The wheels felt small for about 5mins.

my new 650b merida one forty 1b is faster on strava than my old spesh enduro.

But then there is ten years difference in the tech, far less pedal bob and less weight and better geometry. I can climb hills that I never could before.

Don't think its the wheels though.

CFH we might have to up it from one per-thread, to one per-post... Just so its a proper deterrent...

Upping the dose?

Needs must.....

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Is it time for me to say '650b - pointless toss sold to idiots by shysters' yet?

Oh, it would appear it is.

darrenspink - Member

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks 26 is going the same way as a dodo so just get used to it and think about the future.

And I genuinely hope all those in the bike industry who promoted this pointless pile of cynical, manipulative bullshit get what they so richly deserve.

700C X 23mm is where its at.

When the peer reviewed, double blind test, meta data analysed results on wheel size performance for the average rider are published then I may ditch my £40 HiFi interconnects and £3.00 per metre speaker cable.

I've still not ridden many. I couldn't tell any difference with the ones I have, though some were really good bikes.

This ^

And I genuinely hope all those in the bike industry who promoted this pointless pile of cynical, manipulative bullshit get what they so richly deserve.

An accountant to count their money?

Sadly, you're probably right. 😐

Did you [i]actually[/i] cut off that kittens ears CFH ?

it's got to be worth a go, relying on god to kill a kitten for every wheel-size thread isn't working.

killing the kittens for him has been no more effective, he knows i've tried.

upping the dose (killing more kittens) could require more kittens than one has access too.

so cutting ears off kittens is a sensible idea, then their tails, before finally killing them - this [i]is[/i] a wheel-size thread; a kitten [i]does[/i] have to die. But this new 'cutting' method triples the dose, without needing more kittens.

I went out on my new 29er HT yesterday, didn't really notice any difference in the wheels even after I had a go on my mates 26 full suss so he could try a 29er. It was the position that made more difference than anything else.

650b is more enduro. You should feel like you're getting your shred on some sick gnar more often.

"Pick a wheel size then be a dick about it" as taken from my post about fav mountain bike slogans 😐

It's not us who have been dicks about it though, is it?
It's the industry and their cowardly, craven friends in the media who have been the erect members in this case.

'Mash' the trails too if its 650b with Pikes on

And now they've got away with this, just wait and see how many standards they change in the move to road discs.
They've established that they can screw us over as often as they like and we will just bend over and take it.

^^ this ^^

I couldn't notice a specific difference at first as the bikes were so different in nearly every way but now I've got used to the new bike and can compare it subjectively with the 26er I do think the 27.5 wheels are better, sorry for not agreeing with the stick in the muds

27.5" wheels do not exist, not outside the minds of the gullible.

What does exist is the 27" wheel. But the industry felt the need to lie and call it 27.5, first as an "in", to sell it as a middle ground, best of both worlds, take your pick from the three available wheel sizes. And then to make the change feel substantial enough to make claims of game changing improvement believable enough to kill of an age old standard.

If they bought in this new standard as 27" and labeled it as such from the start I doubt it would of got off the ground.

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Notice how the pink line (difference between 26 & 650b) Is half the thickness of the purple (650b & 29).

Too many kittens in the world anyway.

27.5" wheels do not exist, not outside the minds of the gullible.
What does exist is the 27" wheel. But the industry felt the need to lie and call it 27.5, first as an "in", to sell it as a middle ground, best of both worlds, take your pick from the three available wheel sizes. And then to make the change feel substantial enough to make claims of game changing improvement believable enough to kill of an age old standard.

29" wheels don't exist either - they're only 2.5" larger than 26" wheels.

Incidentally my 26" wheels measure 27" with my preferred tyres, my 27.5/650b wheels measure 28" with my rear tyre and almost 28.5" with my front.

Sorry but the word you are looking for is betterer and these days it's all about how the wheels compliment the kinematics of your steed.