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I like my gears. My knees like my gears. I also like my single speeds, my knees not so much. After a brief experiment I figured I could get by with 3 gears, one for your typical singletrack fun, one for going up those really steep hills and one for coming down fast or commuting in a hurry. So here's the question, has anyone tried a sturmey or other type of wide range 3 speed hub for such activity. If so how did you get on? Can you still walk?


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:16 pm
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Always wondered why they didn't just improve my Grifter gears, I suppose they did, with Rohloff. Up, down and along would do me though.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:20 pm
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Got a hub on the shelf waiting for exactly this experiment to commence, think it is a 5 speed though, slippery slope only wanting 3 when 5, 8 or 11 is so easy to obtain 🙂


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:21 pm
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the problem is surely once you add the selector parts the added weight of each gear is probably negligible. I quite fancy dinglespeed though on my el mariachi as commuting on 34-20 is really spinny, but I like riding with a high cadence off road normaly so its fine for that.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:46 pm
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I acquired A couple of SA hubs ages ago intending to try just such a thing out... Never got any further than that.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:52 pm
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Quite liked the idea of thesturmey archer s2 Kickshift hub. Gears but no shifters... Apparently not all that durable though.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:56 pm
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You want one of [url= http://www.profileracing.com/estore/product.php?productId=13 ]THESE[/url]

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Would be very sleek with a miniature road mech.

Thank me later.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 6:57 pm
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That Polish made in a shed planetary 3 speed system looks like it could be interesting. It would be perfect for my off road commuter.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 7:04 pm
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You want one of these.Only 2 speeds,one for uphill and one for flat.A bit like hammerschmidt but betterer.Got one to go on 'project not fat or singlespeed but not skinny or geared' (need to find a snappier name).
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Posted : 11/09/2013 7:06 pm
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Hammered my Nexus 3sp for a coupla' years - fun, but the range is waaay small. Then water got in and it died.

Might as well have an Alfine8 if you want a hub gear system.

hubstripping.com ?


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 7:10 pm
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What's the width of the Profile hub? 110mm?


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 7:34 pm
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Why not just run a single cog at the back and a triple at the front? That'll do you about right.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 8:22 pm
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They never seem to have a wide enough range. I'd want a 22/34, 34/20 and 46/11 equivalents...


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 8:25 pm
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Why not just run a single cog at the back and a triple at the front? That'll do you about right.

Because you'd need a rear derailleur to take up the slack when you're not on the big ring?


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 8:59 pm
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I know it's not 3 speed or hub gears but my knees have given out and I've gone 6 speed on my Hope SS hub with a Zee short cage mech. I was running 33-17 with a 9 speed chain. Couldn't get a 10 speed chain on the Surly front ring to match the clutch mech. So now running 32 Hope front ring with the 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25 sprockets off a 105 cassette.

All works as it should and I haven't dropped the chain once. The three big ones are too spinny for anything other than what you would use a granny on a full geared bike. You can't stand up a gurn up a hill, you just spin the back wheel with no traction. So it's taken a bit of getting used to.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 9:52 pm
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Sturmey do a 3 speed with 135mm spacing, 6 bolt disc mount and thumbshifter - less than £100 for everything.

Lighter than an Alfine and felt much more direct and less mushy (pawls rather than roller clutches). Proper direct drive in middle 1:1 ratio (Alfine isn't direct drive). Ratio mix was good for Lakes etc in UK, but broke me trying it in Austria (reverted to backup 7 speed derail. on a Hope ss cassette hub).

Downside is no sealing whatsoever, weak axle and chainline not very good with regular mtb cranks.

Nearly there, but not quite.....


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 10:09 pm
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I like singlespeeding but another gear for the road sections would be brilliant.

Please get on with it.

Ta 🙂


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 10:20 pm
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The Sturmey ratios were pretty much spot on for expanding a singlespeed range - the low gear was just low enough to take over where you would be stalled out ss (or dying from leg cramps on a long day out). The high gear was just high enough to make progress on the road whilst not spinning like a ****.

Slightly bigger jumps would be OK, but anything replicating the absolute extremes of a triple setup might not be very rideable in reality.


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 10:32 pm
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That profile hub is for bmx hence the 110mm oln


 
Posted : 11/09/2013 10:32 pm