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I suppose like many others I got caught up in the Emperor's New Clothes idea of 2x10. However I have noticed on the forums quite a lot of talk of chains dropping (well seems a topic of conversation now which I didn't notice with 3x whatever) and now I see that MRP are launching a 2x10 chain guide?
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/mrp-2x-first-look-31227
I now I have a rigid SS but don't consider myself a retro grouch but really is this right? Shouldn't the rear mech be designed to create enough tension to keep the chain on? Or the design of the chainrings, or both? Is there just too much chain flapping about? Would the tension needed in the mech be too high to effectively change gear? Are the shift gates now being used on chain rings "too" much and allowing slippage?
All I know is, that if I was in a position to fit a bike out with 2x10, especially at the XT/XTR/XO/XX end, I'd be pretty upset if I then had to resort to an extra bit of kit to keep me chain on.
Dropped mine today on the final descent of the red trail at Brechfa - combined with a time pedal that kept detaching from the axle, clipping back in again on one of the steeper bits was a right mare.........
I've had 2 x 10 with Sram XX and now got 3 x 10 with XTR, and neither had chain wandering issues.
MRP might have started an interweb rumour when they developed the new chain device.
Chain guides are hardly a new thing. If you didn't need one before, you probably don't need one now. But for those of us that do use them, they're great.
Mine doesn't drop but then I have a proper double specific front mech and the right length chain. I found it dropped a lot while I used a triple front mech.
i started racing with a 2x9 this year and really liked it, perfect gearing and range for everything but massive chainsuck and chain droppage........ended going back to 3x9 and never using the granny 😥
2x10 XX here and never, ever dropped the chain. Got it nice and short so it just fits big to big should I ever find myself in that situation.
Full XT 2 x 10 set up here and no dropping issues. It was a lazy (but achievable) shift before I got the dedicated front mech but other than that no issues.I do find it noisier than 9 speed though, especially on the 3 biggest rings at the back, especially in the mud.
been running 2x9 for years on my bikes with a regular front mech
never had a problem with dropping the chain
ran a dmr dual ring lower roller guide thing for a while took it off in the end and still dont drop the chain
getting chain length right is the key ime
Ran 2 x 9 with bash & Blackspire Stinger CD on an '06 Enduro and convinced myself it was the way forward.
Didn't really have the range I wanted towards the high end and the jump between the front two rings meant dropping the chain on a regular basis.
Went back to 3 x 9 on my S-Works and it's great, all the range I want and on the odd occassion the chain bounces off on a rough descent, it usually just pedals back on.
Never dropped the chain on 2x10, with xx or XTR.
Never dropped a chain when I was 2x9, and neither now I'm 2x10.
Good stuff. It was just I noticed a few threads around where people were commenting on dropping chains, and then along comes the MRP guide and I just started to wonder. I know poeple have run 2x"X" and 1x"X" for a long time, it seemed to be the comments made were more about the new wave of system specific 2x10.
If it's not an issue that's fine.
so is the chain dropping issue due to the larger sprockets on the cassette?
Has anyone tried 2x1 - a double (or even triple at the front) and a single at the back, with a chain tensioner in place of the rear deraileur?
Might be good in the winter...
I went 2x9 and the chain would regularly overshoot the small chainring on the way down. Changed to a 'double specific' large chainring and FD (M665) and it solved the problem. The ramps on the M665 chainring are different, and the FD cage smaller.