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Comparing the best trail bike examples of each.
26" - Unstable without slack HA, doesn't climb well on steep tech unless quite steep ST angle, manuals easy, stiff wheels, easy to get perfect position (low bars etc), nimble and fun but gets out of control sooner, light weight.
29" - Stable, longer wheelbase (plus and minus points), more climbing grip/ability (longer rear centre), more difficult to manual, more effort (ability?) required to maneuver, boring at low speeds but ultimately more control at higher speeds (wheelbase/BB drop), noticeably less energy required (contact friction/tyre deformation), wheel flex unless expensive CF options used, better suspension performance for similar travel (roll centre).
Latter is faster no doubt in my mind. Former is probably more fun especially at lower speeds.
Bollocks
Exploding wheels.
I've only just got a 29er. And I usually ride small (16in) 26ers.
Negatively compared to a 26er
- Heavier in the wheels and frame.
Acceleration is a tad slower.
- Steering not as direct or nimble
- Highish front end but it is not felt in a bad way
bars are about level for my 29er with 80mm travel. Longer forks more commonly found are 100mm and I'm not too sure how I would like the front to be any higher.
Positives are
- Grip. Loads of it.
- Descending is quick. Once it is up to speed it maintains it far more than a 26er over even marginally challenging terrain.
- Ascending - it rolls over and up. What it loses in weight penalty and acceleration it gains in momentum, grip and line choice.
I haven't tried it through twisty singletrack but I am fearing the bars will be clipping the trees and vague-er steering may make it more of a handful .... but we will see.
27.5!!! All of the advantages of both 26" and 29" wheels; none of the disadvantages of either!!!* 8)
*This may be total BS!
JoeG - Member
27.5!!! All of the advantages of both 26" and 29" wheels; none of the disadvantages of either!!!**This [s]may[/s][b]IS[/b] be total BS!
FIFY
try before you buy
I've not ridden one but i've read the internet, so...
Pros: Bigger wheels equals larger wheels
Cons: Larger wheels equals bigger wheels
p.s. i'd love to see how fast some posters ride if they find 26 unstable at speed (and if you mention head angle you'll get a slap!)
Well I can see this thread has reached the usual crap standards of wheel size threads - does JLC really believe what he writes?
Reading the informed information on this thread and the piss taking(fully expected and encouraged) I'm going to keep my 26'r and bling it up a bit ๐
If the new thing was rainbow coloured bikes, instead of 29" wheels there'd be just as many evangelists saying that rainbow coloured rides better, rainbow coloured grips better, rainbow coloured is faster etc etc...
The fact is, when you buy or try a new bike, nine times out of ten you will perceive that it is better than what you had before. This is true of bikes, cars, DVD players, lovers....whatever.
New bikes reinvigorate you and consequently you perceive yourself to be riding better.
Hence the incessant and unnecessary upgrades to our bikes most of us succumb to.
Get a new bike. You'll love it, it'll have more grip, it'll probably climb 34.9% better than your old one, it'll be faster on those gnarly fireroads, it will accelerate better, it'll be more stable at speed... yada yada....
Sorry.. ๐
Get a new bike. You'll love it, it'll have more grip, it'll probably climb 34.9% better than your old one, it'll be faster on those gnarly fireroads, it will accelerate better, it'll be more stable at speed... yada yada....
probably true, but, if it's a 26er, it'll look rubbish.
(unless you're a short-arse)
clubber - Member
Rubbish.
36" FTW
I'd love a go on one of those.
Anyone sell frames? My weird bike collection is needing company...
After moving to 29'ers I now find everytime I go back to a 26'er I end up riding it into a childs face.
and if you mention head angle you'll get a slap!
Steep's out - slap head angles are all the rage now.
rainbow coloured grips better
I fitted rainbow coloured grips and instantly knocked 20% off my Strava times. I think it's because they really make the handlebars come alive.
I follow these simple rules with buying a bike.
Try it, Like it, buy it
or
Try it, don't like, didn't buy it.
Pretty much summed it up.
If your research is limited to what the internetz thinks, then you are unlikely to be happy with the final choice.
The only real way to know what suits you is trying. Book a demo or two.
There's no such thing as a "perfect" bike, there are bikes that will suit your needs, ignore wheel sizes and focus on how it is when ridden.
probably true, but, if it's a 26er, it'll look rubbish.
It's funny how what looks good gets conditioned by what you are used to.
I was on holiday on Mull over the summer. As I was out walking with the kids I saw a guy about my height (6') riding a 26" MTB. Having ridden exclusively 29ers for the previous six months, my first though was "gosh don't those wheels look small". Sort of out of proportion. Then I noticed the way the bike was moving. He wasn't doing anything special, just cruising along the trail as you do; popping off the odd rock and hopping over the odd puddle. But it made me realise that, in my quest to find a faster MTB I'd lost sight of the reason why I ride round in circles in the wood in the first place.
I still have my 29er HT in case I ever go on a ride where I care about how fast I'm going uphill or along the flat. But it's great being back on a 26" full suss, even if it does look rubbish ๐
Subtract 29 from 26, take that number and multiply it by the average gradient of your favourite climb and divide that number by the average gradient of your favourite local decent. Add one for luck and you are left with your optimum wheel size.
57% of the time this works all the time.
Ride long distance XC most of time. Had 26" Cube acid Hartdtail loved that bike. Moved up to Anthem 29",lovley bike but massive change in gearing. Have put a 22 granny ring on to help compensate. 26"is more fun especially on hills. 29" smoother. As a note people say 29" faster, did a 70 mile event the other day. Only 10 mins faster then my old 26"? love the anthem, miss the acid.