I'm going riding in Malaga with Switchbacks doing the Winter Enduro package in a couple of weeks and I'll be taking a 29er (Stumpjumper FSR Comp with 150mm). I've been told I'll need a dual ply rear tyre or it's going to get loads of punctures. Unfortunately options are very limited for 29ers, only one I've found is Maxxis Minion DHR II 29" DD/3C/TR but it's really expensive at £62
Also is a dual ply tyre essential for this type of riding to avoid punctures ? Never ridden here before
Also I'm still running tubes, would it be a viable option is to get a tyre that's not quite as expensive but run tubeless?
Specialized Butcher and Slaughter with grid casings
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px; background-color: #eeeeee;">Also I’m still running tubes, would it be a viable option is to get a tyre that’s not quite as expensive but run tubeless?</span>
100% go tubeless, i still struggle to understand why anyone in 2018 wouldn't be.
I'd also say that if you are getting regular punctures it will ruin the holiday. its very rocky and dry there and spending a little and avoiding the frustration
otherwise perhaps look at something like a Bontrager SE5 super enduro, 40 quid or so i think, thicker sider wall etc, not quite a G5 DH tyre but decent, or a WTB vigilante tcs.
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enjoy itas brilliant in malaga
sorry for the awful spelling and structure. I can't edit it in the new improved forum!
just get the Minion. you get what you pay for...
nextday.bike have the doubledown aggressor at £50 or the DH dual compound Minion DHF at £52. Both would be suitable options..
Magic Mary or Hans Dampf Super Gravity are €40 at r2-bike.
I was going to suggest the DD Aggressor at Next Day Tyres as well, or there's a DD Tomahawk at £43.
It is definitely worth considering tubeless as well, as there’s a lot of thorny plant life in the area. Super Gravity Rock Razors, Slaughter Grids, WTB Trail Boss Tough etc all work out there, not sure on current prices for them though.
I've done two trips to Spain, both on the same pair of high roller 2s with exo casing and never had a puncture. The thing that put me off getting a heavier casing is that I'd never use them outside of the trip. The same pair of tyres has also done a week in the Alps, again no punctures.
I'd recommend tubeless though and running slightly higher pressures to prevent rim dings if, like me, you're not used to rocky riding.
WTB Tough, Schwalbe Supergravity or Maxxis Doubledown casings will be fine rather than full downhill casings - but you should change to tubeless.
I need to have a tyre clearout and probably have a couple of suitable options - drop me a line if you're interested in a cheap used solution for this.
My Alps setup is HR-2’s run at slightly higher pressures, with tubes as that is what I have always used. I have never seen a reason to run tubeless but appreciate others do
I've just done similar riding in La Gomera (arguably more rocky) and was fine with Specialized Butcher/Purgatory combo. £35 each at Evans for the 29" ones.
I live in the southern Spain and its very dry and ROCKY here most of it very sharp stuff. I run Maxxis Dhf on the front and either an Ardent or Minion SS on the rear all in exo 3 C max terra versions. I run around 25psi rear and 23psi front with Stans tubeless jizz. You need tubeless because there are some evil thorns over here and for snakebite puncture protection. A friend came recently with his normal inner tube setup and punctured (big double snakebite) on a superb 10km down hill which kinda spoilt the ride a little.He was running around 35 rear 30 front.
Thanks for the reply's, a few choices to consider. Dual Ply is stated as required both on the switchbacks website so think tyres like the Purgatory control won't be enough. Considering the Trail Boss tyres
This could be a good cheap WTB option depending how it sizes up. I think their 2.25” is similar to 2.3 Maxxis or Specialized offerings.
I've had great experiences with the WTB Trail Boss tough. Got me through a week in Spain no troubles on my 29er hardtail and a couple of weeks rock bashing in the Highlands... No flats. Its also nice and fast rolling which helps overcome the extra weight.
I was out there at Switchbacks in Nov doing the winter Enduro. The trails are very rough but no worse than Lake District. I don’t think 2 ply dh tyres are required but definitely something tough on the rear. I used Magic Mary single wall front and super gravity rear both tubeless and had no punctures all week. I almost used a WTB trail boss rear tough/fast which I think would be ideal and is much cheaper.
There were several 29ers out there most had Magic Mary or Minion DHF or High Roller.
DoubleDown Aggressor is a good option too, or SG Hans Dampf
Think the Aggressor DD looks very good but why are they only making it in 2.3? Way too narrow.
Did a week in Bubion with Switchbacks last May. I ran Bonty SE4, my mates ran Maxxis Exo 3C MinionsHR2 and On-One CM & Smorgasbord Enduro casing. All of us ran tubes and no-one punctured! Did damage my Carbon Syntace Vector bars tho. Gutted! You’ll have an awesome time btw!!!!
Stop right now.
You needn't pay £62 for a decent Maxxis tyre.
If you're on a budget, a Grid carcass Specialized Purgatory will set you back around £35 but if you shop around, you can find a storming deal on a Maxxis High Roller II which will be more than up to the job:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/maxxis-high-roller-ii-mtb-tyre-tr/rp-prod133186
My own Stumpy 29er has a High Roller II at the back and a Minion DHR up front, run tubeless. The bike is noticeably faster rolling with this setup than the Butcher/Purgatory I used beforehand.
If you want to run tubeless, than your tyre will need to be more robust than if you run with tubes.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px; background-color: #eeeeee;">If you want to run tubeless, than your tyre will need to be more robust than if you run with tubes.</span>
Eh?
Went last year or the year before, going again this year. Ran a Magic Mary snakeskin and I think DHRII EXO, no puctures, no issues and I destroy tyres/wheels like they are going out of fashion.
As others have said - normal tyres will be fine with a bit of protection (EXO, GRID etc) so just find something that's decent value - do go tubeless though as it's the thorny things that cause annoying slow punctures which can be eliminated with tubeless.
listen to the guy who lives in southern spain
To clarify, I was responding to the OP who posted "Also I’m still running tubes, would it be a viable option is to get a tyre that’s not quite as expensive but run tubeless?" - My own experiences with certain brands of tubeless ready tyres run tubeless haven't been great, with sidewall tears, punctures and lack of sidewall support.
This is why I stated that running tubeless would require a more robust casing than if you ran with tubes.
WTB tough or a butcher grid for something a little lighter
Haven't been to Spain, but, the dualply DHF 2.5 is bloody effective and easier to find (and usually much cheaper) than the fancier Maxxises. It's surprisingly light, too, because it's a kevlar not wire bead.
One of the beefed up 1.5 ply carcasses - WTB Tough, Schwalbe SG etc gives you tougher sidewalls (usually actually double skin) with a single ply tread section which solves tears etc nicely.
Tubeless will help with punctures but mostly open up lower pressures without Snakebite and vastly improve tyre roll as well as grip and probably save best part of a pound out of your wheelset too. It’s a silly advantage to be throwing away. People tend to focus on the puncture sealing or weight aspects but the whole package is the deal (unless you run 30+ psi after conversion...)