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29er with a 23mm min internal, what's the cheapish, but not crap, to start from nowadays for general trail (what used to be XC) riding?
Last I bought were some WTB i23 frequency's, though planet x have i25 for £8???


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 9:32 am
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I'm afraid I don't know much about rims but those look excellent value for £8!


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 10:20 am
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I built up a pair of those rims with decent double butted spokes and Novatec hubs (direct from China) for less that £100 to try out wider rims on the 29er. Built up really easily and tubeless is the easiest of any rim I've tried. An absolute bargain for what I wanted, maybe the only downside is the rims are a little heavy, but for £8 it's hard to complain, especially as they are lighter than the wheels they replaced.

They're on a rigid On One Inbred 29er for context.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 10:23 am
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Jakd - any idea of the build weight with this hubs?


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 11:16 am
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At that price you could build up a good pair of wheels cheap if you can build them yourself?. Other alternative is the Pro build Chosen hubs with Alex Volar rims that Merlin has on offer


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 11:41 am
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£8 is a bargain. I've been hammering i23s for about 3½ years and? they haven't missed a beat.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 12:33 pm
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£8 is a bargain.

Except when you add it to the basket they bump the carriage to [i]"£15.00 YODEL BIKES"[/i] piss takers.

Esit: Scratch that, if I only put a pair of rims in the basket standard delivery was available...

Ordered.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 1:52 pm
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Ive got a set of those i25 st rims

They are actually i25 stp and came in at 570grams ish per rim.

Also the probuild wheelset from merlin cycles are awesome, strong, lightish, double butted spokes, wide, spin forever and lots of points of engagement. I dont think you can build a set for that price.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 3:31 pm
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Now ive read this post Ive just ordered a spare set of the i25's as i have a habbit of bending rims so it will be a cheap crash next time 🙂

The volar rims are about 490grams so the i25s are only 80 grams heavier each


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 4:29 pm
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This is just preemptive parts GATHERING really, I know my next bike will be a 29er of some sort.

For a tenner a rim it seems silly not to snap up a pair of rims early, even if the rest of the bike is a very distant "TBC"...


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 6:45 pm
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this isn't going well 😯 .. I looking for a friend, whose going to buy my old 29er frame, they'll be out of stock before he orders!


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 6:46 pm
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I can't find any for sale on On One, anyone got a link? If it's an ST, it's a good buy at that price but it's a fairly basic rim- pinned and hefty, but tubeless ready which is a bonus. Heavy for the job you want.

Way I see it with wheels is you can save a few quid on one part and in the end, you still end up spending a couple of hundred quid or more on the wheels, and you've made them worse. You need to be careful to avoid false economies in one part. I have a set of ST i23s and they're OK, but they're not what I'd buy to put in a new wheel (in fact I literally just bought a pair of Frequency i29s, for £45 from CRC, bargain)

CRC also has the KOM i25 but it's a bit more expensive- it's more of an XC/trail rim than the other WTBs.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 7:03 pm
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Not sure what other differences it makes but the set i received are STp not ST

They are lighter and dont have the silver ring around the spoke holes

I think the decals on the frequency rims look aweful. On a i19 frequency set i used to owe they were falling off after five minutes also


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 9:49 pm
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[url= http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/RIWTBSTI2529/wtb-st-i25-tcs-29-rim ]linky[/url]

Image shows STp text says ST.

Reading the blurb, I get the impression that it's an OEM targeted rim, the I-beam profile plus the width make it heavier but probably make it generally tougher to help minimise returns, the Tubeless Ready claim is a bonus for the spec sheet for any given bike these days... Would fit the PX/OO M.O.

So cheap, wide, a little on the 'Chunky' side... Still Worth a minor gamble IMO.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 10:52 pm
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That listing is odd, it's as if it's for the ST but the ST isn't I-beam. Usually you'd think it's just a copy-paste for the wrong rim but it can't be. Maybe the STp is, maybe it isn't but if it is then they've somehow mixed up 2 different descriptions.

(if anyone's received a set, could you look in the spoke holes and see if you can see the i-beam? It's easy to spot)

TBH it's probably a decent rim, and certainly worth the price, but it's hard to see it as an XC/trail rim because of hte weight.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 11:19 pm
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Weight:

Rims: 570g x 2 (WTB STp i25)
F Hub: 145g (Novatec D771SB QR)
R Hub: 269g (Novatec D772SB 135mm QR)
Spokes: ~6g x 64 (ACI Alpina doubled butted 2.0mm-1.7mm-2.0mm)
Nipples: ~1g x 64 (Brass)
Total: ~2002g

Price:

Rims: £8 x 2 (Planet X)
Hubs: £62 inc. postage from Australia (cyclingdeal.com.au) arrived 6 days after placing the order
Spokes and nipples: £0.21 x 64 (free nipples) (cyclebasket.co.uk)
Various postage: £4 + £5
Total: £100.44

Certainly not the lightest weight wheels but they are considerably wider than my previous 19mm internal Superstar wheels (as well as being 300g lighter than the SS ones, so I did actually lose some weight), should be stronger and went up tubeless an absolute breeze, something I really struggled with with the SS wheels. In addition to this the Novatec hubs can be converted easily to 15mm/142x12 with end caps should I change frame/fork.

While I'm well aware they aren't that light and are a pinned rim the main attraction as a skint student was the bargain price to be able to try out a wider rim on the Inbred (definitely an improvement!) while also recycling the SS wheels onto the commuter bike so I could put discs on that, a win all round for £100!


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 12:51 am
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Those novatec hubs seem a little light... is that the actual weight or manufacturer stated weight?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 6:46 am
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They're similar to CK R45s in weight.

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Posted : 19/06/2017 7:15 am
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They arrived last night:

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They're 'STp' not 'ST' , I can't see an I-beam profile, no eyelets, holes drilled offset, weighed on the kitchen scales at 570g...


 
Posted : 21/06/2017 7:35 am
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Cheers OP, ordered a set, fancy trying them as an alternative to the b+ wheels on my levo.

Right, what's the cheapest 32H boost hubs with an xd freehub and 6 bolt discs....


 
Posted : 21/06/2017 8:24 am
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My spare set arrived. They are defo not ibeam however 570grams seems pretty reasonable given their width and price.


 
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