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Many, many interesting things to come! Some very intriguing stuff at the £1k mark on the road, especially.

This is already out in the wild, though;
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The Merz edition Sequoia. Yum.


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 9:49 pm
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Harrogate concept store has one, ''tis very nice indeed, shame it's too small for me, and I already have a standard one...


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:05 pm
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Just show me the 2018 Enduro 29er!

That Sequoia is nice though. Never had a bike like that but I'm planning one for my 'mid-life, breakdown, ride around the world, crisis.'


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:19 pm
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Just show me the 2018 Enduro 29er!

My lips are sealed. Sorry! 😀


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:22 pm
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Heard that the new Diverge is taking on the Roubaix futureshock cartridge.

Few spy shots floating around and the video that Sagan has just done with the muscle car........

Wife has already said no........

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Posted : 11/06/2017 10:28 pm
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I've never really seen the point of the Sequoia, tbh.
Weighs pretty much the same as an AWOL, but takes narrower tyres.

Pretty bike though.
🙂

Looking forward to seeing what they've got in store for the Allez personally.


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:30 pm
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2018 Diverge, as ridden by Ned.
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Silly steerer tube condom, sadly. Appears to have lost the Zerts in the seatstays, but this could just be a test mule using bits from the 2018 Tarmac (As seen under Dan Martin at the Dauphinoise). Also, looks like bigger tyre clearance.

Looking forward to seeing what they've got in store for the Allez personally.

Must. Say. Nothing. 🙂 (It's impressive. Very.)


 
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You've got my email address sweetie.
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Posted : 11/06/2017 10:38 pm
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You've got my email address sweetie.

I'll send photos.

Not bike ones. 😈


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:40 pm
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When are we likely to see the enduro and stumpy out in the wild?

I'm looking at my next bike now and may hold out


 
Posted : 11/06/2017 10:54 pm
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My lips are sealed. Sorry!

What a buzz kill!

I was speaking to a Spesh employee last month about the Enduro 29 and he said that if I'm seriously thinking about buying one then I should wait for MY18. But he wouldn't say a bloody word about why. Just nodding and smirking.

What the hell have they done to it?


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 10:02 am
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What the hell have they done to it?

hidden battery/motor


 
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I was speaking to a Spesh employee last month about the Enduro 29 and he said that if I'm seriously thinking about buying one then I should wait for MY18. But he wouldn't say a bloody word about why. Just nodding and smirking.

What the hell have they done to it?

They did quite an overhaul for 2017, I would have expected different colours and maybe components, hopefully a spesh own brand dropper with more than 125mm drop! I dont think they'd do any frame changes!

Remembering from last year, the bike was announced in August and then didnt land till September.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 10:20 am
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I know it was all new last year but it wouldn't be the first time they'd moved on so soon.

If I had my way I'd lose the plus tyre compatibility. The BB seems higher than its competitors and I haven't seen anyone praising (or using) the balloon tyre option. I'd just make it a long and low, raked out, 29 specific, race machine.

Oh, and while we're playing the guessing game, throw in some Ohlins coil fork and shock and I'm interested. Oh, and paint it as black as the night.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 10:28 am
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Any news on the Tarmac? That's due a revamp and if they manage to get discs on it without needing stupid proprietary wheels and they've put bolt thru axles on it then I'd love to see it!


 
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I'm sorry but that Sequoia looks awful IMO, the front end looks like its come from a completely different bike. Also IME it probably rides with all the responsiveness of a brick. Not impressed.


 
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Also IME it probably rides with all the responsiveness of a brick

Eh? Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about tbh. It's a touring bike of sorts. Stability is the key, but I'd say mine rides like a nice rigid MTB. Which is basically what it is.


 
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In your [b]experience[/b] it [b]probably[/b] rides with all the responsiveness of a brick.

So, having experienced it, you're still only at probably?


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 11:02 am
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He's demoing the brick next week.


 
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Any news on the Tarmac? That's due a revamp and if they manage to get discs on it without needing stupid proprietary wheels and they've put bolt thru axles on it then I'd love to see it!

Dan Martin was probably on the rim brake version last week:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/new-specialized-tarmac-spotted-at-criterium-du-dauphine/

Similar dropped chainstays to the Diverge above, but QR and not much clearance


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 11:15 am
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(As seen under Dan Martin at the Dauphinoise)

Racial stereotyping there Flashy? 😀


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 12:35 pm
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Not intended!

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Posted : 12/06/2017 1:05 pm
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They did quite an overhaul for 2017, I would have expected different colours and maybe components, hopefully a spesh own brand dropper with more than 125mm drop! I dont think they'd do any frame changes!

This. Maybe more ohlins options


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 1:15 pm
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Just saw a promo for a promo...Peter Sagan to ride the new Diverge on the 15th.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 1:20 pm
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Hate to break it to you, but the Sequoia Merz is a 2017 model and has been sold out for a while.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 4:30 pm
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I was speaking to a Spesh employee last month about the Enduro 29 and he said that if I'm seriously thinking about buying one then I should wait for MY18. But he wouldn't say a bloody word about why. Just nodding and smirking.

What the hell have they done to it?

Guessing a new paintjob, longer-drop dropper and maybe Eagle GX?


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 4:37 pm
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Ah. I thought they'd released it as a 2017.5 model!

Never mind. Here's a Dolce (Pretty sure)

And a Diverge.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213123489551892&set=p.10213123489551892&type=3&theater


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 4:40 pm
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MOAR Diverge.
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Posted : 12/06/2017 9:34 pm
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MOAR Diverge.

Suspect someone put that eyesore on Sagan's roof for a laugh and he's desperate to shake it off.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 9:47 pm
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Any news on the Allez DSW Sprint for 2018??


 
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Eh? Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about tbh

What do you base that on, other than that he has a different opinion to yours :roll:?


 
Posted : 13/06/2017 6:00 pm
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Is this Spesh astroturfing?


 
Posted : 13/06/2017 7:04 pm
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Is this Spesh astroturfing?

Fanbois be fanning...


 
Posted : 13/06/2017 7:06 pm
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Looks interesting - up to 42mm tyres

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/06/15/new-specialized-diverge-drops-future-shock-swat-ton-options/

Looks like there are different models per country on specialized.com, noprices yet though


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 10:57 am
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Also on Bikerumor, first snippets of the Allez range.....


 
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Posted : 15/06/2017 11:19 am
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IIRC the full suss mountain bikes are usually announced during early July. As a self-confessed Spesh fanboy I'm eagerly awaiting news on whether they Specialized will be altering the geometry of the Stumpy/Camber frame for 2018. The Stumpy/Camber is two years old and didn't really move the game on from the previous model generation aside from internal routing and SWAT on the carbon models.

Competitors are longer/lower/slacker, especially in 29er flavours.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 11:21 am
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I hope they do redo the enduro 29er for 2018, the longer lower slacker marketing for the 2017 model was not backed up when comparing the geometry figures with the previous model.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 11:24 am
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They won't redo the E29 til 2020 probably.

I agree it should have been "marginally longer" but they did put a decent HA on it at last didn't they? Bloody hope it's lower than the last version, but haven't checked.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 11:28 am
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On the xl model which I compared it was no longer, had higher bb and stand over, reach was longer but I think that had been achieved by reducing the head tube hight, head angle was slacker and they added full rear carbon triangle, internal cable routing and swat cage.

Nice improvements but geometry wise not the step forward it was marketed as.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 11:35 am
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I just had a look and they don't include the BB drop on the old geometry chart but you are right the quoted BB height is now 17mm higher - when it was way too high to begin with!

What were they thinking? When they know loads of people were modding the old one with the 650b yoke to make it handle better?


 
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I for one [strike]like roman numerals[/strike] feel I could do with a higher bottom bracket on my 2015 enduro as I keep getting pedal strikes (xl size presumably has longer cranks). Not sure how I'll achieve that, will try running the shock firmer first... could it be the debonair can is too linear?


 
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I know the E29 is supposed to be better with a standard (ie. non-debonair) shock.

Is yours the 29er or 650b Sideshow? Shorter cranks seems the obvious solution, but you can get an offset BB adaptor to adjust the BB height manually too.


 
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29er. The thing with being an XL rider is that long cranks are useful! Though I've only got the stock ones.

Yeah I know they ship with the standard shock. I'm going to try higher pressure because presumably that pairs quite well with more linear behaviour - firm but doesn't get firmer. (So long as the curve doesn't actually slope downwards once frame linkage is taken into account?!) Failing that then bung a load of volume reducers in.

Shame as I quite like the 'sits far into travel' feeling, it's very planted on descents, but a pain when pedalling.


 
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