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12 Speed Red 1x crank with 11 speed Rival

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I'm looking for a bit of advice. I have a 1x Rival 11 speed set up. I'd like to buy a 12speed Red crank PX have on sale atm, as it has power meter built in and won't foul the crank arms on my Tempest. Can I get away with just chaning the crank or is it chain too, or won't that then run on 11 and so on? Ideas anyone - many thanks


 
Posted : 18/05/2023 7:21 pm
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I would expect a 12sp crank to work fine with an 11sp chain.


 
Posted : 18/05/2023 7:26 pm
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The sram 12 speed road bike stuff uses a different chain , called flat top by sram.
It has a different pitch.

But I’ve not tried mixing bits myself.
The weight weenies forum may help


 
Posted : 18/05/2023 7:30 pm
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The sram 12 speed road bike stuff uses a different chain , called flat top by sram.
It has a different pitch.

All bike chains have been 1/2” pitch for yonks, although Shimano dabbled with a 10mm pitch chain back in the 1970s. A 12 speed chain is 0.2mm narrower than 11 speed - for a chainring this as good as makes no difference. The 12 speed SRAM chain is optimised for their gears - a chainring + crank is pretty agnostic provided the chain width is suitable


 
Posted : 18/05/2023 9:07 pm
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Thanks. I was confusing the larger rollers of the flat top with chain pitch.
And am now off down my own rabbit hole of vintage Shimano oddness.


 
Posted : 19/05/2023 11:02 am
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Yeah - the flat top rollers are slightly larger than a 'standard' chain, otherwise pitch and width should be OK. I've seen reference somewhere that 12 speed flat top is OK with 11 or trad 12 speed chainrings, not vice versa though.

I think the answer is probably. Ideally of course if you could get a 107 BCD chainring for 11 or trad 12 speed then there would be no potential issue.


 
Posted : 19/05/2023 12:35 pm
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Just like to thank everyone for their replies. I'm going to dive in and so be it - thanks again.


 
Posted : 19/05/2023 6:59 pm