speaking of "Lost In Translation"...
two bored people meet up in Tokyo and spend the next 2 hours being, well, boring.
speaking of "Lost In Translation"...
two bored people meet up in Tokyo and spend the next 2 hours being, well, boring.
Lost in translation
Royal Tenenbaums
Any star wars
Any LOTR
Any Harry Potter
2012
man where to start. A.I (what a load of ...) godzilla (i love the japanese films.hated the hollywood version) the wicker man/itallian job remakes (why did the have to be remade?) independance day (a massive waste of time money) i won't go on (apologies if someone has already said the films that i have,haven't read thread)
I'll have to defend the LOTR films, but then I'm a big fan of the books and I think that Jackson did a good job of translating the story to celluloid. How can you not like the battle scenes where Aragorn (Strider), Gimli (the dwarf), Bernard Hill (Yosser Hughes) and Gandalf (moving pretty rapid for an old bloke) beat the $#!+ out of a load of orcs. Having said which, Orlando Bloom as Legolas (the elf) was a bit of a t1t. I would have liked to see Tom Bombadil too.
My vote for worst big film would have to be the second in the "Matrix" trilogy, watched it in the cinema and was bored rigid. Judging by all the fidgeting and chatting going on, so was the rest of the audience.
Star Wars prequel films were pretty rubbish too. Jar Jar Binks - why?
Edit: just remembered that Bernard Hill's character was called Theoden
LOTR - So so dull. Dull film with no soul at all. The landscape in New Zealand is beautiful but just too empty for it to feel right. It ended up looking like a cheap TV adaptation like Xena, Warrior Princess but with a bit more money thrown at it. Rubbish for the same reason that the New Star wars has no soul but the old ones did. Everything too clean as it is done in CGI instead of using real sets and real locations. In LOTR all the ancient cities, ruins and building looked like they had been hastily built out of cardboard and polystyrene and plonked in New Zealand.
I can see how the Yanks may fall for it but we come from Europe for gods sake, thousands of years of history and you are taken in by middle earth alla Disney land. I know they are not rated as much as "Fanboy" films but compare them with the look of the Harry potter films (ok not the Quiddich CGI) and I hope you know what I mean.
LOTR is an outstanding set of films.
I've got to disagree with any mention of The Matrix trilogy too.
Memento - not necessarily a 'big' film, but one which people rave about. I thought it was self indulgent BS.
+1 for the LOTR trilogy. The first one was OK, but taken together the amount of hype they received was incredible. Any film where the hype involved how many swords, axes, orc masks they had to make is always going to end up being a disappointment.
I'm glad so many people are saying LOTR, I went to watch the first at the cinema and that was excruciating, then it just stopped and the credits went up.... rubbish
Haakon - whether it was a good book or not, the film should stand or fall as an artistic work in it's own right, lots of bad books made into good films so equally possible to have good book, bad film
actually most of Peter Jackson's films are rubbish, overlong and indulgent, he thinks's he is smarter than really is...
dunno if it counts as a big film but Napoleon Dynamite, big steaming pile of
Forrest Gump, rubbish
oh yeah, the second and third Pirates of the carribean, interchangeable indeterminate boring p00
No Country for Old Men ... massively tedious.
What, really? I think that's one of the top 5 films of recent years, astonishingly good.
Yep. Really, really dull.
I'll have to defend the LOTR films, but then I'm a big fan of the books and I think that Jackson did a good job of translating the story to celluloid
What? He changed the freakin' story!
Mission Impossible 2 was worse
the best thing in mamma mia is the blue landy at the beginging
What? He changed the freakin' story!
Name me one film-of-the-book that doesn't?
(ok, apart from Watchmen)
Doesn't mean I have to like it!
I quite enjoyed it at the cinema but, in hindsight, Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull was more of a let down than Star Wars prequels.
I'd forgotten the Crystal Skull! I seem to recall reading a quote from Spielberg about hwo it was going to be good old fashioned stunts rather than CG bull$hit, and what did he do?
Also the whole aliens bit stretched my suspension of disbelief just too far, but I'm not sure why- I could go along with the whole Ark thing and the supernatural stuff in the Last Crusade even though it's just as hocus-pocus really, but the UFO stuff just didn't feel right for Indiana Jones.
Think this takes some beating....
Inception - found it really hard to watch, had to force myself to continue watching, 2nd half is better but nowhere near as good as I was expecting.
sadly i agree inception was overrated. It wasn't bad, but stuff like the snow cat chasing with machine guns unable to hit anything needlessly ruined it. Neat idea of a film, but the execution was sloppy and appeared to run out of steam.
2012. End of thread.
Lifer - Member
"What? He changed the freakin' story! "
Course he did, if he hadn't it'd have been 3 films in before anything happened at all. But it was still pretty close. No scouring of the shire, no tom bombadil but I can't rememember anyone ever lamenting the lack of that knobber.
'That knobber' is pivotal to the story.
Avatar, no question. Dreadful.
LOTR films were great IMO.
Oh yeah, I second No Country for Old Men as utter dross.
I just have to ask... In what possible way is Tom 'Knobber' Bombadil pivotal to the story?
Most films mentioned here I've never bothered to watch, and those I have, like LOTR I've accepted the flaws and enjoyed them for what they are. I enjoyed the books when I read them thirty-odd years ago, but I couldn't face reading them now. Inception I really enjoyed, and Sin City. Highlander is kind of daft but I really enjoyed it first time around and I'll happily watch it if it's on tv. Highlander 2, though! What a total crock, one of the worst sequels in genre cinema history. Let's take an existing story, then throw away any connection with the original and fabricate a new backstory where the Immortals who had been here for centuries suddenly prove to be space aliens, and chuck in continuity errors so obvious they're embarrassing. Funnily enough, Highlander 3 took up where the first one finished. I wonder why?
Titanic: The entire film is just about the ship sinking. All the bits before it hits the iceberg are just to show you the ship, it's just a guided tour. Then all the running around inside the ship as it sinks is more of the same. So tune out the plot and it becomes massively better.
The sinking bit is great.
I just object to the idea that the sinking of the largest ship ever built and the loss of 1,500 lives is not enough of a story. You have to tack on a stupid romance to get people interested.
Historical films should stick to facts.
And let's not get on the the Americans actually finding the Enigma machine in that U-boat film.
Highlander 2, though! What a total crock, one of the worst sequels in genre cinema history
No, as far as I can remember they only ever made one. Following a great film with one or even two steming heaped piles of shite, surely no-one would be stupid enough do that, especially not by desecrating the first by bringing back charactars who'd been killed as ghosts, no, that can't have happened. They only ever made one
(guilty admission, I went to the cinema to watch Highlander 2 the day it came out. I was horrified. I've never seen it since.)
The Abyss especially the last half hour with the bloke just descending down and down and down
The Deer Hunter was also very tedious, but fell asleep so suppose it could have got better, but I doubt it
Amadeus didn't get that at all, can't really say if it was bad, but not my cup of tea
Van Helsing
Independence Day
Avatar
You have to wonder about the people who sign the cheques. But then millions of people paid to see them, so who's the idiot?
Gangs of New York
Inception
Groundhog Day
Being John Malkovich
...all utter bilge.
Highlander 2 is an interesting one.
Like CZ and others have said, it's a dreadful film. I was a huge fan of the first one at the time and was crushed when I saw the sequel. The problem right off the bat is that Highlander ends; it doesn't lend itself to a sequel at all. I always wondered how they were going to make a follow-up and the answer turned out to be "really quite badly." Between Highlander 2, AlienCubed and Escape From LA, I've learned the hard way not to get too excited about forthcoming sequels to beloved movies.
HL2 was a film with huge production issues. The main problem was, the movie company wouldn't leave them alone and kept interfering and changing stuff, eventually pulling the plug on it entirely before it was finished and then hacking together a movie with unfilmed scenes missing. It had massive continuity issues and didn't make a jot of sense.
Christopher Lambert reportedly tried to quit during filming but they wouldn't let him leave, and the director was really unhappy with the entire thing (he famously walked out of the premiere screening in disgust).
Oh, and the cobblers twee ending where they all turn to stardust or whatever was a bolt-on for Europe and never part of the original release. How special do we feel?
However. When it came out on video, the director went back and tried to fix it. He got rid of a lot of continuity errors, threw out the "hey, aliens!" plot line completely and basically tried to turn it into the film he wanted to make in the first place, as best he could in post-production. It's called the "Renegade Edition," (I have it on NTSC VHS) and whilst it's still not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination, it's exponentially better than the theatrical release. (I believe he went back to it again for more tweaks when it went to DVD, though I'm less sure what was done here.)
I wouldn't pay a lot for it, but for the curious it's probably worth a rewatch if you can aquire a copy. It's not the train crash you remember.
I forgot to mention Godzilla (the remake) and Blair Witch 2.
Completely terrible.
The Expendables. Even all the explosions failed to make the ironing exciting.
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