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Just recieved this from [url] http://wolftoothcomponents.com/ [/url] .

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu-b/8638294722/ ]XX1 type 30T 104 Chainring[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stu-b/ ]singlespeedstu[/url], on Flickr

It's a 30T to fit a standard 104BCD and it has the new tooth profile to help keep the chain on without a guide.

I'll see how well it works when my new frame arrives next week and i can get building.
Just put a chain round it and it does seem to lock it on there quite well.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:21 pm
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It's a 30T to fit a standard 104BCD and it has the new tooth profile to help keep the chain on without a guide.

funnily enough there are uk versions of that kicking about too. By all accounts remarkably good


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:22 pm
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Saw this before and wonder how well they work.

Taz - which one? Not seen anything.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:23 pm
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Wait's for tazzys wobbly30tchainkeeperoner. 😆


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:25 pm
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Is it offset, or are you filing your spider?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:33 pm
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It's offset.
Might have to just take the corner off the tabs not sure until i fit it.

I've also got an Andersen 30t for 104 and that needed a couple of minutes work on the tabs with a file.
Side profile of the Andersen.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu-b/8457811293/ ]Reducer bushes for chain clearance[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stu-b/ ]singlespeedstu[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:38 pm
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Wait's for tazzys wobbly30tchainkeeperoner.

it's not a wobbly stu, but made by the same cnc wizards. the prototypes have been thrashed and bounced all over the lake district and on local stuff and not a chain drop once.

Sam have a chat to Kev Clewes on one cog


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:38 pm
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Can't help thinkign this (and XX1) must cause a bit of resistance to pedalling, with the added friction of chain against ring. Whether that'd be perceptible or not I don't know.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:40 pm
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it's not a wobbly stu

I was taking the p a little tazz.

I recon it'd take some doing to make a wobbly 30t for 104.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:41 pm
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from seeing them in action there's no perceptible difference in peadalling


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:42 pm
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I recon it'd take some doing to make a wobbly 30t for 104.

totally, 33 is the dinkiest wonky on a 104 bcd


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:43 pm
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I want one! I've used the andersen and extralite rings and am due a new chainring.

I can't find this in their webstore though - is it not available yet?

Also how is this supposed to work; I thought the sram xx1 ring had a special chain too?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:43 pm
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Steve.

Click on my link at the top and then click on "online store". 😉
It's supposed to work with any 10 speed chain.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:47 pm
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Yeah I found the online store 😀

Is this it though?

http://shop.wolftoothcomponents.com/104-BCD-chainrings-001.htm

It looks like the spiderless one has the machined teeth but the 104 BCD just looks like a standard chainring.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:50 pm
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That's the one.
It's just harder to see the tooth profile with it being black.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:52 pm
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Ah I see, it looks like all their chainrings have this profile, I understand now.

How long did yours take to arrive?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 6:53 pm
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Two/three weeks maybe.
I can't remember when i ordered it TBH.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 7:03 pm
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When are the goldtec ones available then?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 7:06 pm
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Works ones are almost out as well.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 7:21 pm
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Dumb question as I haven't seen these before, do you not get issues with the chain sticking still at the bottom of the stroke? Like chain suck?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 7:25 pm
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When are the goldtec ones available then?

not sure, best bet is to give the shop a shout.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 7:41 pm
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Been waiting on a Works one and seeing their new picture on the fb page i really am set on one but dont want to wait forever....

The Wolf one looks OK, not sure about that price though, especially if customs get hold of it?

Good to have options though.... XX1 pricing is out of my range.

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Posted : 10/04/2013 8:47 pm
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Are Works doing a 30T version?

Oh what are these customs you speak of? 😉


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 9:13 pm
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Are Works doing a 30T version?

Oh what are these customs you speak of?

Looks on their fb page like plenty have asked them - they say they are looking into it but i would think that means more delays (i am after larger than 30t though so this wont trouble me)

I got shafted by customs last time i purchased some parts from the USA - added £18 to the cost 🙁 - luck of the draw?


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 9:18 pm
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Ta. 🙂

They "might" stack the luck in your direction if you ask. 😉


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 10:23 pm
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Ah - this looks like perfect timing, as I am just switching to 10 speed. Raceface ring back to CRC, then phone goldtec today! If not it'll be a wolfy in 32. $19 shipping + import risk tho 🙁


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 7:20 am
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Double postage 😳


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 7:21 am
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So potential $100 on a chainring?


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:11 am
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Marcin at absolute black said he had a xx1 type single chainring for sale.

I've not used that but i do have one if his 94 BCD rings which is stunningly made.

He's very helpful and in the UK.

http://www.absoluteblack.cc/chainrings.html


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:18 am
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So potential $100 on a chainring?

So half the price of an OEM XX, or XTR chain ring then? Doesn't seem too bad.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:23 am
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still is stupid for a cog ffs no matter how you dress it up! Its a wear and tear item that will wear pretty quickly if alu and you ride somewhere remotely wet and gritty


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:36 am
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How much will the goldtec ones be knocked out at? Bearing in mind that a superstar stainless ring that will wear VERY slowly plus an E13 guide will cost £55ish in total and the chainring is the only consumable here


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:37 am
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funnily enough there are uk versions of that kicking about too. By all accounts remarkably good

Who? What? Where? Been looking for a 30T ring for ages - any pointers?


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:38 am
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still is stupid for a cog ffs no matter how you dress it up! Its a wear and tear item that will wear pretty quickly if alu and you ride somewhere remotely wet and gritty

Don't buy one then 🙄

You must have convulsions at the idea of £350 XX1 cassettes.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:40 am
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i don't have one or need one as i do not suffer, unlike a lot on here, with delusions of grandeur


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:43 am
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still is stupid for a cog ffs

Don't buy one then.

Problem solved. 🙂

As njee pointed out it's a fair bit cheaper than XX.

Oh and [b]if[/b] i could get the same thing a little cheaper I'd jump at it.But right now this is my only option for a 30t 104 XX style ring so the price seems fair enough.

i don't have one or need one

Problem solved again. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:45 am
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Dumb question as I haven't seen these before, do you not get issues with the chain sticking still at the bottom of the stroke? Like chain suck?

I think that's a good question...I can't remember ever getting chainsuck on a 32T chainring but maybe the tight fit of the teeth could exacerbate chainsuck in very muddy conditions?


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:47 am
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I think a clutch mech should stop that.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 8:51 am
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Its a wear and tear item that will wear pretty quickly if alu and you ride somewhere remotely wet and gritty

Depends what grade of aluminium. If it's something cheesy like 1000 series then yes; if it's 7075/Duralumin unlikely.

Renthal have been making 7075-T6 aluminium motocross sprockets for years - the contact surfaces work-harden, so they actually wear less the older they get.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 9:04 am
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$100 is a bit steep for a ring but it is a 'new' thing right now.... My perspective is that it's a game with customs too, I know stu escaped them but i didn't last time.....

Though did people miss the part where I said the works ones will be £35-40, that's about the same as a renthal or similar - no brainier in my eyes until raceface and e13 get involved, then the choice gets tougher.

Edit- unless you need 30t in which case it's not a common easy thing so is bound to be more expensive.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 9:37 am
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I've decided not to bother until some of the other companies have brought theirs out, you're definitely paying a premium at the moment and it'd be good to see some reviews after they've been in the wild for a bit!


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 10:19 am
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If it works the same as XX1 - I'm in! A friend with XX1 on his tallboy put it through its paces on Dartmoor the other day with no dropped chain and plenty around since before the Olympics, so quite a while in testing.
Goldtec - end of this month (on the phone) 🙁
Absoluteblack - May sometime (website) 🙁
Works don't seem to have 104bcd on their site 🙁


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 3:23 pm
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Ordered 32t - fingers crossed :mrgreen:

Anyone want to buy an E13 XCX-ST 😉

EDIT: For me, this is a great solution, as the XCX is not very compatible with Solaris frame + 32t ring + RF turbine cranks. I can't get it quite far enough towards the seattube to get the chain central or low enough over the ring without it fouling the tabs on the chainset...


 
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Works FB page reckons end of April for 104bcd rings.


 
Posted : 11/04/2013 4:01 pm
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Works FB page reckons end of April for 104bcd rings

Looks like a 34t first

Absoloute Black - just had a phone call back and looking at 6 weeks - no price yet


 
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