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I'm fed up with googling. No I don't want race blades not do I want to destroy my paint with a cable tie bodge, I want the bike for primarily winter road/training with full guards and a CX/CX race option.

Budget is £1k.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:03 am
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Pinnacle Arkose. There should be some kind of widget that defaults that in. Ok it's not race cx geometry but I doubt that's really going to be the difference between you winning and losing.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:08 am
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Caadx 105. Brilliant for the money. Mine is primarily used as the OP less the racing. Masses of clearance for guards, wheels a bit weighty and Promax Renders relatively unknown but all work fine.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:12 am
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Your both missing the point. Neither of those has a mudguard mount at the point where the brake calipers should be, hence you can't add full guards. I''d narrowed my choice to a Caadx 105 or giant tax before I discovered this.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:14 am
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Ridley X Bow Allroad?

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*No idea what it's like.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:14 am
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@Kryton. If that's the conclusion you reached, try again 🙂 The CAADX has normal mounting points in the usual places. Mebbies you missed them in online pics as they are quite discrete.

CAADX back to no1 choice 😉


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:18 am
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Really? I appreciate it has eyelets but does it have a bolt through the fork?

Bregante - while googling that Ridley I found an X Bow 10 105 on offer....


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:22 am
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Might be a bit over budget if you need all new parts, but the Kinesis Pro 6 has proper full guard mounts. I like mine as a road bike, and with kit pulled off my old ride it didn't cost insane amounts to build up.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:24 am
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Oh I see. I accept my schooling in the way of mudguards. 😳


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:25 am
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Yes and braze ons on the chainstay and seatstay bridges. You can rush out and get one now 🙂


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:27 am
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Ok I found a pic with the "hole"in the seat stay bridge. Does the front Guard mount "up" into the crown of the fork then - like sks chromoplastics would need?

Edit. Oh but BB30.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:32 am
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Norco Threshold ?

I have an A2... love it.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:35 am
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I'm riding a Surly Straggler with 1.75inch Schwalbe Marathon Extremes and full SKS 45mm wide mudguards. Brilliant.

Not going to be competitive in a CX race but it can really handle the rough stuff!


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:45 am
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Neither of those has a mudguard mount at the point where the brake calipers should be, hence you can't add full guards.
Arkose takes full SKS guards, mounts at the stays and bridge / under-crown fork eyelet. BSA BB also.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:47 am
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Thanks jameso. Evans have an Arkrose 3 in lime green in budget. Can you confirm if it doesn't have the brakes on the tops as per the pics, and that I'd be fine to slap so,e 25's tyres on for road?


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 8:57 am
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Whilst the Arkose does not have a bolt through the fork crown it does have an (arguably neater) braze on position directly underneath at the bottom of the steerer. Better position for the rear calliper than the cannondale imo too.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:01 am
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The mounts for mudguards are threaded bosses on the inside of the CAADX fork. The vast majority are sold with full length mudguards fitted.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:01 am
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Boardman cx? Not as "on trend" as the Arkose but mine has SKS Bluemels fitted.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:01 am
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I fitted those horrible rattly fiddly bastard SKS mudguards to my CAAD-X once. ONCE!
Give me Crud ones any day (although maybe not on the CAAD-X).

Had no problems with the BB30 since I regreased it.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:03 am
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Can you confirm if it doesn't have the brakes on the tops as per the pics

You talking about chicken levers?


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:03 am
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horrible rattly fiddly bastard SKS mudguards

I claim user/home mechanic error there. SKS don't ever rattle if fitted competently. Which is not hard 😉


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:06 am
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Can you confirm if it doesn't have the brakes on the tops as per the pics, and that I'd be fine to slap so,e 25's tyres on for road?
No top levers fitted these days. I use an Arkose 4 with 25s as my big mountains road bike in Taiwan, love it. imo better in the wet and on really fast desents than my 'best' road bike. A bit heavier than a dedicated road bike but for me it's a lot more fun.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:11 am
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I'm also looking for a £1k (C2W friendly) 'adventure road bike' that'll take full length guards, however I also want to fit a rack - I know the Pinnacle has rack mounts, but does the CAADX?

I'd not seen the CAADX before - now rapidly moving up to the top of my list.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:17 am
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The Marin Lombard Elite also has full guard mounts. Mine has SKS Commuters fitted but if you do actual CX on them they get broken very easily by sticks/branches etc. I'll be switching to another solution, maybe full metal, when winter comes.

£800 too at realcycles.

http://www.realcycles.com/m37b0s199p6384/MARIN_Lombard_Elite_2015

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Posted : 29/07/2015 9:17 am
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Sorry been away from the 'does a CAADX have proper mudguard mounts?' thread for a few mins getting ready to......go and ride it 🙂

It has a standard bolt through fork, nothing unusual or fancy. It takes the standard mudguard tab on the back of the fork crown and the hole through the fork is not threaded.

It has BB30 which I was/am very wary of. Mine's done a couple of thousand miles since last autumn and is still OK. I regreased it recently as the non drive side (oddly) was a bit clicky. All silent since.

The CAADX does have proper rack braze on mounts.

I should be on commission 🙂


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:23 am
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Just ordered a CAADX. It'll get a rack on it too. Will require a bit of spacing due to the caliper placement.

Looked at TCR, Synapse, CDA. Wanted something lighter than previous Equilibrium and Vaya (which were almost indistinguishable).


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:24 am
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I claim user/home mechanic error there. SKS don't ever rattle if fitted competently. Which is not hard

They do when the stay mounting point breaks. Which it will.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:27 am
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For me the CAADX has two things to improve if you're looking to throw money at it. Wheels and brakes.

The stock wheels are perfectly good just a bit heavy. I changed to Kinesis Crosslight's. The brakes again are perfectly fine but I came across some Spyres cheap and fitted those. There's really no need to do either, I just caught a nasty dose of upgradeitis.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:29 am
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[i]I claim user/home mechanic error there[/i]

Probably, but ok, I exaggerate. Still not as silent and simple as the Cruds.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:30 am
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Which it will.

Well I'm waiting....25 years and counting (if you include using them when they were called Essge).


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:30 am
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SKS are the gold standard for mudguards. The mounting points last for years if fitted correctly. By then, you'll be happy to change. If they're fitted badly, they fail earlier.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:31 am
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Yikes, now I'm torn.

a) Never owned a Cannondale, everything else has better brakes
b) Like the Lime green & weight of the arkrose
c) Like the look of that Lambard but would prefer 105 over SRAM
d) At a stretch (my actual budget was the £839 TCX), the Arkrose 4 in blue with hyro's on sale at £1050 is looking awesome...
e) Prefer the stealth / black look

Edit: those pinnacle colours will clash with my red club kit...


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:32 am
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Plus1 for Boardman CX Team
With all the offers and discounts at Halfords
can be had for £600-£700 (down from £900)
Definitely has guard mounts.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:38 am
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The TCX (if you can live without the guard mounts) or the £1050 Hydro Arkose would be my top choices from your list.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:44 am
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As it happens I have a brand new 105 crankset which would go straight on the Arkrose 4 as well...

I'm very nearly convinced, if only is was a bit duller in colour.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 9:47 am
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Was riding my Arkose 4 last night with upgraded 105 crankset, other chaps on a Tripster and a Kinesis, proper Gnarmac night.

It's a fantastic bike, you get used to the colour. I don't feel an urgent need to upgrade anything.

Have you looked at the PDW mudguards that Charlie Bikemonger has on sale, they look like a superior product?


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:06 am
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TCX, TCX, TCX!!! 😉

You do know the TCX has full guard capability don't you? It comes with clips (solid clips) and fittings to allow full guards to be attached.. Just in case you'd missed that in the spec.

Mine came with a full set and I sent them to a guy on here who'd lost his, I wasn't going to use mine.

Just thought I'd point that out.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:16 am
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Arkose takes full SKS guards, mounts at the stays and bridge / under-crown fork eyelet. BSA BB also.

Apology accepted 🙂

They're great bikes, very versatile and nice to ride. I use mine for commuting once a week (30 miles each way) as well as general faffing about on. Also been used for a half iron man and blatting around the whinlatter red trail, albeit the latter result in a pinch flat front and a midge attack.


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:30 am
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TCX, TCX, TCX!!!

You do know the TCX has full guard capability don't you? It comes with clips (solid clips) and fittings to allow full guards to be attached.. Just in case you'd missed that in the spec.

I have missed it - do you have a link?


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:34 am
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SKS are the gold standard for mudguards.

No, that's Gilles Berthoud. A far superior product.


 
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Well I don't actually have a link, just going from what gubbins came with my bike and then asking the guys what they heck they all were.. But all the clips and giggles come in a very stout carry bag with full instructions and lighting clips too, bell and IIRC a spare headset grip bolt for the OD headset.

The clips themselves are very strong screw clamps, two for the chainstay, 2 for the seatstay and one for the BB area. Fit around the stays and screw tight in a clamp. Mine were a fetching shade of blue to match the bike 😆 The lighting clamps were black, one for the seatpost one for the bars, sturdy is the word for these things.

I've got a spare set (unused) Smart Sams that came with my bike, never going to use them if you are interested FOC...


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:51 am
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ok, I've contacted Giant to ask.

But the Pinnacle has Hydro's and full carbon fork albeit for a £200 premium....


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:56 am
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Gold standard sks?? Bah... pdw are very very good far superior to sks and with various sales around at the min only a couple of quid more than sks


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 10:56 am
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How are these other mudguards better?


 
Posted : 29/07/2015 12:02 pm
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In every way over the sks. Better fittings. Made of metal. Rock solid. I use mine offroad and they still dont move


 
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