That Stoater is a lovely machine. Price is a little on the high side esp once you have added the drop out onto the cost.
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UK built, steel hardtail?
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Posted 1 year ago #
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something based around 100 - 120mm forks
Slackish head angle
Lowish BB
Short back end
ISCG tabs
31.6mm seat tube
About 5lbs in weight
44mm head tubeSo it would be lightish, strongish and fastish up hill and down dales.
Basically just a cotic bfe with a different head tube, slightly slacker head angle, a lower BB and a touch lighter.
If you are going to add adjustable dropouts, use the DMR swapout system. I wouldnt buy a frame like a P7 cos they have about a lb's worth of metal bolted to the dropouts just so some muppets can run them single speed! Plus they look awful.
Posted 1 year ago # -
davidtaylforth - Member
Basically just a cotic bfe with a different head tube, slightly slacker head angle, a lower BB and a touch lighter.
This (maybe with a nod to slightly longer forks - 130-150mm though, but that's a personal thing).Question then becomes what is it worth extra in financial/marketing terms for a UK designed/UK built HT versus a UK designed/Taiwan built HT?
For me, a BFe in the latter camp at £300 would make anything in the former camp that cost more than £500 too expensive unless it had another massive USP going for it.
slainte
rob
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Souldrummer - next Alpine will have XX44 Reynolds 631 head tube and dropper compatible seat tube.
Bellerophon - Prince Albert Classic 853?
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custom uk made frames seems to be a growing market especially now there's the Bristol bespoked show and there are now a lot of people who have probably done the full suspension thing and are willing to pay for something that is a bit special. A good uk example is enigma i think there steel frame is about £ 800
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@ mike-at-dialledbikes - blimey that IS good news. Better start saving. If only all my wishes came true that easily!!!
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I'd like to know what people would want from a UK built frame
29er, loadsa mud clearance, lively side of handling, comfy, as few gussets as possible, really hard wearing paint in an ace colour.
Do you even care where the frame is built and would you pay a premium for something built here in the UK?
Yes, that is one of the reasons I bought Orange before. Even having a company (such as On-One, Cotic, Sanderson, Dialled etc) that design and spec here counts for something.
What kind cost they'd expect to pay?
Cheap steel HT £200 to Cotic @£500, so £600-800 mebbe(assuming I had the money...). But I am a skinflint...!Posted 1 year ago # -
Shame that "Stoater" wouldn't take a suspension fork.....
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Aye
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