[Closed] Tree Surgeons? Will I die if I try this?

As a layman, your're going to pull it towards you whilst sitting in a tractor/4x4....?? 😯

You might be able to twist it around but really it needs a proper job - don't underestimate how heavy these things are!

I'd imagine they'd cut it in steps from the stump end but no expert..

You are going to die eventually whatever happens. Might as well take the tree down.

I'd be inclined to rope it as high as possible, get a friend to pull it away from the pool house and then climb up it, using your weight to pull it the rest of the way down (shouting "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" as the tree falls is optional, but recommended.)

I say go for it. Just make sure the rope is longer than the tree is tall. What's the worst that can happen? So long as it doesn't involve anyone getting squished, then crack on...

as soon as you put any strain on it via the rope the end you're sawing may decide to let go and ping up taking your chainsaw and/or face with it.

personally, I'd pay someone who knew what they were doing to have a go.

They'll have insurance to cover tractor/4x4/poolhouse/face replacement as well.

User the tractor and a big rope to move the Pool House instead!

I'd get a pro in. That's not an easy one to get right, especially by yourself. Ideally I reckon you'd want to be pulling it as its being cut, but a small mistake on the rope tension and its bye bye pool house.... worth the risk?

As a layman, your're going to pull it towards you whilst sitting in a tractor/4x4....??

Even if the rope is around the roots, if it's longer than the tree itself, then shirly no problem with being squashed?*

(* - other problems with this job are available)

Can't really help, but as a happy amateur, looks like one of those hang-ups that I would cause with a badly placed hinge that takes ages to drop safely. Video of the final solution please 🙂

Whatever you do, video it! 😀

Whatever you do, just remember to get someone to video it - Could end up on you've been framed !

Just drop kick the son of a bitch down.

In my professional opinion you need explosives.

A few hundred quid to pay someone to do it or a pretty good chance of serious injury.

Hire in Chuck Norris?

Best all round if you move out and I move in.

I'd put a rope around it as high as you can and have a go at pulling it to see if it's all feasible...if it looks good then I think your idea [s]CANNOT FAIL[/s] should be OK....I'd use a bloody long rope though so you're nowhere near it when it breaks.

Oh and I am thinking tree surgeons will be hard to come by in the next few weeks...

serious suggestion - would your buildings insurance cover it?

Whatever you do, video it!

^^This please.

Mcmoonter converts pool house into yet another log store!

hire one of these

If it was me, I had access to a tractor, chainsaw rope and reasonably useful mates, I would be all over this. So long as you think one step ahead, think about where the energy transfer is, respect the weight of the tree and the cutting gear, and take careful precautions for all of the above, then why part with cash? The satisfaction of getting it done will be worth it alone. It's proper [b]bloke[/b] stuff, isn't it? (so long as you still have a face)

I'm not a pro but applying a bit of sense...

1. Check home insurance.......
2. Get advice from a pro. or ask a pro (who will have insurance), to do it... .. working with windblown and hung up trees with a mate who knew this stuff, windblown trees were quite unpredictable in which way they went and how the broken bits behaved, especially at the nasty/chainsaw where your standing, end...
3. Very big tractor and rope sounds a good idea and it looks like there is good access from your pictures... you may just be able to drag it rather than cutting it which may be more controllable and safest at the end of a rope, in a tractor....

If the big tractor has a hydraulic winch you could just drag it from the base having tied guy lines to prevent it from falling on the pool hut?

We have a candidate for the 2012 Darwin Award already.

If you can afford a pool house you can afford an expert who is insured. Are you insured if you cock it up? Will your insurance company pay out if you drop the tree on your "pool house". Also they would [u]probably[/u] pay for someone to come and cut it down as this [u]maybe[/u] a claimable item.

serious suggestion - would your buildings insurance cover it?

Its a buckshee building with no planning consent so the insurance company would just laugh at it.

I'm with V8 ninety on this. Access is good from the pulling side. I have some super strong webbing strops. I was having doubts about using the cabless Fergie. But with a big tractor and some common sense it has to be doable.

Ohh no - not the Ferris Bueller's Day Off house!!!!

You have get up there to put the rope/chain round thats the dangerous bit, so cherry picker maybe worth looking at? PS everything is

doable

Pulled a tree out of the ground with a bigger trunk than that over the Christmas holidays.
Used a spade and axe around the roots, tied a rope 5 meters up and pulled it over with a tractor.
Tree was close to a building one side but had no issues with it going the 'wrong way' Got lots of logs for the fire now though

Video'd it too

As a tree climber of seven years, turning up to that first thing in the morning would have me scratching my beard.

Things to consider: the root plate is acting as a counter weight: as the weight is removed, it may try to sit up again, pinching the saw if you carry out the gob it up, and cut from behind.

With my health and safety hat on, I'd want a mewp to dismantle the crown before tackling the stem. With my self employed hat on, I'd prolly try and dismantle it top down from the adjacent tree.

Look like ash, correct? Straight grain see, notorious for barber chairing, hmmm... still scratching.

Where are you, can I come round and watch!

Fishing rod and line to get a rope over the tree as high as possible and then pull 90 degrees to the trunk and hope it swivels on the root ball....

Like V8 says, think it through carefully if your going to use a chain saw on the base.... and mates is a good idea.... and dont forget your escape route if it goes a bit pete tong....

v8ninety - Member

then why part with cash?

The satisfaction of getting it done will be worth it alone.

It's proper bloke stuff, isn't it?

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day
He's a lumberjack and he's okay
He sleeps all night and he works all day

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavat'ry
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flow'rs
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendies and a bra
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

WAHH! And I thought you were so RUGGED!

yeah, big tractor, big rope as high up as possible, gob it 90 degrees to the pool house, REALLY thick hinge, and lots of video 🙂

Damion

I had a horrible experience with a root root plate pulling the stump vertical once before. That freaked me senseless.

I dont think it is an Ash.

I'll do a bit some more head scratching before I try anything heroic.

I'm in Fife.

I'll do a bit some more head scratching before I try anything [s]heroic[/s] horrific

FIFY !

Pretty windy here in Musselburgh today... think there were bits flying off TJ's roof too

Hire a telescopic chainsaw and take it down in sections.

...pinching the saw if you carry out the gob it up...

...notorious for barber chairing...

Wow! It's like a different language bearing a tree surgeon.

If you've got some rope use it to keep the tree upright by pulling it back a bit/tying it off

[url= http://www.history.com/shows/ax-men/articles/glossary-of-logging-terms ] Don't be a lumber bumbler...[/url]

Might be beech, hard to tell from behind my desk. If it is, safe as houses ;D

Hmmm... what could possibly go wrong...? Seriously though, there is only one outcome that would seem desirable, and achieving it will take some skill/ luck no matter what gear you have and the number of "[i]proper [b]bloke[/b]s[/i]" you involve. Dealing with hanging trees is not much fun at the best of times, as you say 'hoping' for the best really isn't the best approach.

Given the limited assessment possible through photos, my advice would be, get a pro in ASAP. In the meantime if you can possibly make the area more secure short term/ remove anything under threat without endangering yourself, do that. There might be ways that doing what you describe [i]could[/i] be made to work, (same with Damien's suggestions) but I would no way advise that over the net.

You might look at it like this - You haven't lost the pool house (seriously?? pool house??) [i]yet[/i]. If you take it on, you stand a good chance of losing the pool house, whilst potentially putting yourself and any others helping out in a life threatening situation. Under other circumstances it might have fallen with those consequences already - don't act in panic and do anything too hasty and you might get out of this with your pool house and one of your nine lives preserved. That might seem overly cautious to some of the heroes on here, but then all my radcore skillz are in high demand for the "Xtreme" sport of mountain biking - I don't want to risk spreading them too thinly.

jon1973 - Member
We have a candidate for the 2012 Darwin Award already.

We also have a candidate for "thinks something's a Darwin Award when he clearly knows nothing about it".

As it is [at the moment 😯 ] it's not actually over the building? Prop it below the canopy then take it out in sections from the top down. Job for a pro I'd say.

Edit: Shame - I've had 3 tree surgeons in to the sawmills this morning who I could have shown this to for their opinions. If I see anymore today / tommorrow (and remember!), I'll ask them...

Id definitely take it on. But probably have a couple of mates in for spotting and back up.
But I like a challenge and you dont learn if you dont play.