Second Higgo's moving pics request!
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that hemlock review on biketragic?
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Posted 3 years ago #
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I too am fed up of static pictures of bikes in Singletrack. Next time you test a bike, could you print a series of pictures of it in the top right hand corner of every page. Then I'd be able to thumb through the magazine at a variety of speeds getting a very real impression of how it will ride.
That's a genuinely brilliant idea. Free 'video' with every copy!
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I'd like to know how many hours the bike has been ridden, by whom, where, what did they did with it etc etc...
Sound like one of those Euromags. Have you seen a German cycling mag? Stats heaven! Yawn. = ;7)
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Completely ignore the joke, putting little videos featuring bikes reviewed on the website when the mag hits the newsstands could be a nice idea.
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Did you read any of the non-test features in the issue you purchased?
Well I didn't purchased it in the end. What is the point if what attracted me in the mag (in this case the home page of this very forum where chipp said the test commencal meta4 vs orange ST4 would be in issue XX), is only a couple of pages with very little info inside. 4£ is a price of a proper book. I am ok to pay a mag this price if it interest me in something.If you are a non product driven mag why do you do test then? If you go through the trouble (or not) to do some testing why not do it properly?
I was looking forward to it to be honest as I would quite like the orange, however before buying a flight ticket to test one I would have love to know what people think of it.Is it that daft to ask?
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I have a pic in a recent mag (not STW)upstairs, showing a bike on next to a spirit level, clearly having angles checked with a digital measure. Shame they seem to be measuring the head angle using the fork stanchion
FWIW, I don'r read much into most magazine tests these days. STW seems to be the only one with half an eye on real riding and riding related to wha I ride - the others seem to witter on about the same pet hates/dislikes or blow up a minor point into a big one etc etc
I didn't like the flexi Hemlock MK1, but having seen and twisted a few of the new ones, and ridden one as well, I would buy one (heck, it was plan A with short rockers on my insurance replacement rather than the ST4). I would trust Cy's response and support over the journo's, despite the clear failure.
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Tests have their place in our mag but it is not the be-all and end-all of the mag. To fit more test pages in the mag would mean losing feature pages elsewhere.
Other more product-led magazines are available.
BTW get the Orange.
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Second Higgo's moving pics request! Come fella's this is a good idea.
Juan, if you don't buy don't moan about the content. You could be from Yorkshire, put your hand in your long pocket and reach.
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BTW get the Orange.
I did
It is schweeeet
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Other more product-led magazines are available.
My wife bought me a couple recently. I read them and come away feeling that all they say is 'buy, buy, buy - last years is soooo crap and outdated, you *need* this new one thats en-vogue*
I read STW, and generally come away thinking 'ride, ride, ride and oooh, gotta ride there some day and hmm, they are nuts' etc
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I sort of see what Juan means. I dont think it explored the content enough (of course only IMO- everyone has an opinion)- more along each bikes intended use, more on each build etc etc (i.e. depth) as I was- silly I know, confused on how the commencal sat in the range (infact until you dig through their site its pretty confusing)- 666, 6 etc etc.
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Sod all the studious explanations of why it's a sound design. Where's that picture of Jon jumping one over a fence?
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i did a 4 foot drop on deejays hemlock loan bike prior to it breaking with his 10 stone frame on it.......
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i've had my Hemlock for 2 months and i love it. i haven't bent or broken it, and haven't found flex to be an issue.
the way i see it, it's a sturdy, light bike, with Dh friendly angles. it allows me to ride technical xc trails, without fearing for my life/face/teeth when i point it down something steep.
it even goes uphills alright, the top tube is a touch shorter than my old enduro, so i don't fall off the back when i pedal.
it's possibly the most fun bike for its weight...
(remember boyles 3rd law: you can break anything with a big enough rock)i hope one day Cy makes a super-sturdy Hemlock, because that would kick ar53 on uk Dh tracks.
mind you, if the current frame passed the new euro strength-test, then it's no weakling...
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Bikeradars (numerous) reviews on the Meta 5 draw your attention numerous times to its flexy rear end (one occassion loosening the QR), especially on a group test where they said the Giant (Reign?) was superior technically (and all round) yet the Meta won for its woop/grin-factory. WTF?
They pointed out themselves that the meta had a flex problem and (to me) the shoot-out was worded/weighed firmly in the Reigns favour. It was actually that review that stopped me buying a Meta 5.
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Cy
Have 18Bikes been in touch with you about their demo bike? I had it last Friday and was really enjoying it. Climbed most of Jacobs Ladder without a problem, came down the other side really well - felt spot on - excellent on the twisty single track and way lighter than I was expecting. I was working out in my head how to spec it when . . . .
The washers were fitted. As you can see from the shock the travel was no where near used up.
Oh and Ton was NOT allowed on it
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Yes, they've been in touch about that one. We're not sure what happened there, and I'm still looking into it. The next lot coming over in June won't have that design anyway, but I'm still concerned and I'll admit a little puzzled. Since we sorted the spacers out we've not had any trouble, I ride one all the time without problem and it really isn't like they're dropping to bits left, right and centre. It's even passed it's lab tests, so I'm still trying to figure out why that did what it did.
I'm glad you were enjoying it up to that point.
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Is that what they call a virtual pivot floating suspension design
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I'm glad you were enjoying it up to that point.
I really was and would be very happy to try a new one when they appear - mind you 18Bikes might not let me
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I've never broken a frame before. Cy, throw my name into the test pool. I found a crack on my 456 Summer season yesterday
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My builder has just offered me deep section chainstays on the new swingarms with machined in butting like the old Pace frames for hardly any upcharge. How cool would that look?!! Very tempted.....
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I found a crack on my 456 Summer season yesterday
Having had 2 fames do this to me i know how gutting it can feel.I do like the way the desginer has come on and explained about his product which would give me the confidence to buy one.
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How the hell did a summer season crack? Got any more info Hora? I thought they were nigh on indestructable....
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Where the seat stay meets the seat tube- seems to start thinly (you wouldnt even notice it on its own) along the weld then 'pangs' out for about 5mm. Its in an odd-place however these things do happen from time to time I guess. After all its a mtb product that is shaken constantly/stressed etc- A manufacturer shouldnt get grief/pointed at etc. Kinda compounds what I said/felt yesterday on this thread even more now.
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hora said... I found a crack on my 456 Summer season yesterday
Did you get a Summer season out of it?
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Be interesting to see what On-One say about it I guess..... I assume they'll send you a nice shiny new replacement given how little it's been used?
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my best guess on the 18bikes/Deejay Hemlock snappage would be loose pinch bolts?
(chainstays are under tension, if those bolts come loose it would allow a spreading load on the 'eye')
i'll keep an eye on mine...
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New Hemlock arrives May/June. Angus council come into Cyclesheme May/June. The eternal ying and yang continues, bringing together the salary sacrifice and the shiny new kit (catches fly with chopsticks while sitting in the lotus position)
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I dont want to say too much on it (I crashed twice on the ti456- over the bars) but none on the summer season. It would be disingenuous/unfair to enter a dialogue and publish it in a public medium at the sametime.
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horasaid ...I don't want to say too much on it... It would be disingenuous/unfair to enter a dialogue and publish it in a public medium at the sametime.
Let's hope this kind of responsible attitude doesn't catch on round these parts!
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Far too reasonable Hora?
Wheres the wild conjecture and promises to wee in the welders shoes after owning him with some bombers? This sort of agreeable chit chat really isn't on here is it?
STW has a reputation to uphold you know. It not just yourself you're letting down here!
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Cy, go for the external butted chainstays, I'll need a Hemlock even more then.
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LOving my Hemlock and if it goes wrong i'll trust Cy to put it right.
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Agree with Mugboo, loving my hemlock, but I am a tad worried that the fecker will snap when I'm somewhere in the middle of nowhere!
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On my way home tonight I came down a long steep road section so pulled the rear brake and looked at the stay for a wee while. And guess what? Solid as a rock, no bowing at all so I don't really know what BikeDoodar are on about. And as for snappage, Cy is a lot bigger than me and prolly rides a damn site harder and faster too and that's good enough for me.
Suffice to say I love my Hemlock.
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