Steel will be fine. As long as it fits you and you’re happy with it, it doesn’t really matter what its made off.

ps decent race wheels (+tyres/tubs) will benefit you far more than a fancy frame.

pps it’s your fitness that counts not what your bike frame is made of.

pps it’s your fitness that counts not what your bike frame is made of.

Sticks fingers in ears…la la la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..can’t hear you…..

there won’t be 3lbs difference in the frame.

300 grammes won’t really make any difference anyway.

oldgit, if you find a frame that you like and it is adequately stiff then go ahead. The differences are small even if they are perceptible and, as others have pointed out, there’s more to be gained performance-wise elsewhere.

More importantly, you would have the joy of appreciating it aesthetically every time you parked it up, washed it, rode it. On that score mrmo’s LeMond hits the spot for me. That’s a nice looking bike, lovely colours, something to be proud of.

More importantly, you would have the joy of appreciating it aesthetically every time you parked it up

I disagree, with the exception of the English I think all of the frames pictured look crap, whilst a Pinarello Prince I would happily just hang on my wall and never use.

i think the internet must be broken, everytime i look for images of a Pinarello Prince – my screen goes all wibbly, like i’m looking in a circus mirror.

weird…

The English bikes look lovely.

Met and ridden with Rob (the owner/designer) a couple of times too, pretty handy bike rider winning Gorrick Enduro/Bristol Bike Fest Solo on a rigid!

Oldgit

Far better to be riding/racing something you love, than some space ship that promises 3 more places up the LVRC ladder ,and turns you in to one of those super serious old codgers with the 1000 yard stare. 😆 😉

whilst a Pinarello Prince I would happily just hang on my wall and never use.

Firstly, you have no taste.
Secondly, not using it is good cos it’d only break if you did use it!

😆

The new Dogma with the green accents would certainly do! Woulnd’t pay £3500 for a frame, but I do like the look of them!

Gorrick Enduro/Bristol Bike Fest Solo on a rigid!

A 16lb-handmade-in-his-garage rigid none the less, scary!

Mmmmmm
Mercian, SRAM Force, 3t, Aspide, Reflex tubs on Pro 3s

SRAM Force? Really? Not just me with no taste then 🙂

If I was starting from scratch I’d go with Campag. But all my other stuff is Shimano so SRAM for the crossover and it’s a fair bit lighter.

SRAM Force is awesome.

And nastier!

Those condors are been released. Called them earlier.

Perfect purchase for crit racing next year!

One day when i’m rich i’ll build up one of these

I have to admit, that despite just getting my hands on a new carbon road bike; I ride past Holdsworth Cycles every day and the Orange Steel bikes they have in the window look awesome.

And they appear to have 10% off them at the moment too 🙄

Anyone for stainless steel ?
http://www.kvastainless.com/tubing-info.html