Why don’t you Mutha Theresa arguers take it outside? Start a new thread and leave this to the original discussion.

I think you’ll find that the person who originally had an issue with Mother Teresa was the creator of this thread, so it sounds a little harsh demanding that he starts his own thread on the matter.

BTW, I’ve tried to move this thread away from Mother Teresa on at least two occasions, so thanks for bringing her up yet again.

I’m not sure how dismissing overwhelming evidence which is recognised internationally by people who have absolutely no axe to grind, and instead willingly accept a contention which presented by a notoriously unreliable, contradictory, and confused, axe-grinding Tory-Trot, represents a more sensible proposition.

What overwhelming evidence? What Freds mum said? Or should we trust in Muggeridges’s sycophantic writings. When she is being lauded as a saint we are happy to dispense with our critical faculties and that pesky nuisance, evidence! When she is being criticised we demand chapter and verse.

(It’s probably also worth remembering that Hitchens is a guy who presumably chose to ignore the overwhelming evidence that smoking causes cancer, maybe he thought he “knew better” ? It certainly puts further into question his judgement, quite apart from his “am I a Trot am I a Tory” antics)

It certainly adds fuel to the fire for you, not sure its of much significance for the discussion in general.

Hitchens is not a socialist, he is a zionist. However, he is a good writer and you do not have to agree with the politics of journalists to recognise the quality of their craft. To simply dismiss people like Hitchens reflects a deep and concerning conceptual and intellectual failing that I would recommend certain individuals would be as well to keep quiet about. They should do some reading so they know a little bit about what they make pronouncements on.

you do not have to agree with the politics of journalists to recognise the quality of their craft. To simply dismiss people like Hitchens reflects a deep and concerning conceptual and intellectual failing that I would recommend certain individuals would be as well to keep quiet about.

True. Goebbels was good at Marketing….

Isn’t she sweet and wholesome, eh?

Did he make ‘Marketing’ a proper noun?

However, he is a good writer

Well, I’ve never knowingly read is writings but if he wrote the script for the Mother Theresa video then I’d have to disagree. Highly hyperbolic, polemic, selective and an almost adolescent desire to be controversial were my initial thoughts.

In fact, crap.

Hitchens is not a socialist, he is a zionist.

And according to himself, he’s still a Marxist, make what you will out of that……personally is led me to conclude that he’s full of crap.

“intellectual failing that I would recommend certain individuals would be as well to keep quiet about”

You would rather certain individuals were quiet BillMC ? That’s a rather Stalinist attitude for a Trot like yourself to be taking ……. if you don’t mind me saying so. Still, hypocrisy and inconsistencies are hardly a rarity amongst Trot Tendencies.

And I am fully aware of my “intellectual” limitations btw. Again, how fitting that a Trot should so contemptuously look down on those with inferior intellect, eh ? I guess there’s nothing which winds a revolutionary Trot more than the semi-literate uneducated masses.

Seems to have changed from a ‘who inspires you’ thread to some kind of who’s my favourite communist conversation…

why should the two be mutually exclusive ?

in typical STW fashion gone right off topic… So back to OP. Beckham, a true modern day sporting legend..