The italicised section above is not from me, I thought I'd made that clear. My views of my bikes in general (I guess will need to update with the forthcoming Buzzard)is as you say - though I'm not sure how it's relevant here. I don't think there are many people who ride 'all-mountain' (i.e. big drops, hucks, DH race type stuff) who prefer or use drop bars. However for a lot of people for a lot of their riding they end up finding they like them (and find them capable) for a lot more than they expected. It is one of those (many) things, you really need to try before being able to make a decision.
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Singular Gryphon - Can I have a look at yours please
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I have tried I bought a gryphon, for touring and green lane riding. Not for off road riding as I live next to the Peak.
I sold the gryphon as I found the bike a bit dead feeling out of the saddle, long stays I think. But I have continued the experiment with a proto TD-1 as it has 16.5 inch stays which feels a lot livelier on the road, but still maintains it's green lane ability with bigger tyres on.
Like I say I think where you live and what you terrain ride has a lot to do with the situation.
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i'll try drop bars, one day, when i grow up, til then..
it's stupid bars made more stupid but running them upside down for me*

the surprisingly battered ride by rOcKeTdOgUk, on Flickr*sorry sam i know you hate the skinny tyred Swift
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Sam if that photoshoot one comes back to you and is shop soiled can I have it at a reduced price
assuming its,my size
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It's unlikely to be shop soiled Ringo, was literally just pulled out of the box for photos then put back again. And given I have a few folks who are looking for them I'm pretty confident I can sell it at full price!
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And another customer build - this one from Phil.

Phil's Gryphon by Singular Cycles, on FlickrPosted 4 months ago # -
Sam is this revenge for SSUK and me making you feel a bit poorly in the morning? my credit card is weeping quietly and hiding at the moment....damn YOU!!
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What size would you recommend for me Sam? I'm 5'10", 32" inside leg.
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tazzymtb - Member
Sam is this revenge for SSUK and me making you feel a bit poorly in the morning? my credit card is weeping quietly and hiding at the moment....damn YOU!!
Tazzy - my credit card would like to start a support group as it is also being made to feel distinctly worried by this thread.
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Here's another picture of mine, which might help you make your mind up ...

... although about what, I'll leave to you.
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Another pic of mine

2011_12_11_IMG_1710 by GavinBelton, on FlickrDid I mention they're superb fun...
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Tazzy - On One adventure bike
(You know we like samples - I've got one. Shhh
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On One adventure bike
Hello Kitty FTW!
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paul4stones- you can go off people you know
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I'll try and get a picture of my Gryphon up when I can work out how. I had Rik's frame. Built up as 1x10 (11/36) as it pretty hilly here, S. Wales, and built on the robust side i.e American Classic All Mountain wheels etc so more mtb rather than cross. Much better on the rocky stuff than I expected and flies around stuff like the Gorlech red at Brechfa, even the final descent - goes around the berms like its on rails. The drops (Luxey bars)are way more comfy and you are defintly 'locked' into the drops when on the descents. I'm off to do the Gap in the Beacons at the w/e which is kind of the type of route I had in mind when I built it so we'll see how we get on.
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I love riding my orthopaedic shoe pretty much does everything it's not designed to do but then I love my Swift too. Don't know what kind of shoe it is though?
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Taz just for the record if I only had one bike especially Singulars(I've got a few ! )
The Gryphon definately rules them all and it's the one I would keep for doing everything very well.
Hydro drops are currently off having a winter rebuild and remodel as they need finishing.
However to prove the versatility of the Gryph it's currently running J Bars and it's absolutely fantastic like that too.
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Glad you love it Nipper but it 'twas not for I, it was one of the best looking bikes I owed though. It's replacement is a lot more road focused with the option of off road lanes, rather than the other way round.
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thanks Rik, def not now road focused!
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Ringo - probably the 53 in a Peregrine.
Gavin - did I not get a headbadge up to you?
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