Do you not think it's more to do with attitudes of other residents of the house?
If you have a one bedroom house I don't think it's out of order to not want a bike in either the living room, bedroom, or kitchen!
Do you not think it's more to do with attitudes of other residents of the house?
If you have a one bedroom house I don't think it's out of order to not want a bike in either the living room, bedroom, or kitchen!
I can't see that a downstairs room in a house need be inherently any more secure than a garage?
It's just about securing the access points really?
I would store the bike in the house if I could but really, I don't to be treading grease/mud into my new carpet or spending time cleaning it immaculatley when I have to do up the kids room or the gardening or the flooring or etc....
the're no point getting 5hitty with each other about it. The only way is to complain to your MP about it.
There just isn't the deterrent for criminals anymore. They are orgainsed and thorough and professionnal, much the same as the rest of us in our everyday work that earns us and our families a living.
If we could sit in our garages with machetes, with enough paitience or the forewarning, chop off some hands and not be prosecuted for it, I think that might not deter others but it might stop re-offending.
In my honest opinion I think that we should just castrate people like that. I think that the death penalty is a bit harsh and we-ve proggressed away from that here, but I don't see anything wrong with a bit of selective neutering and spaying. It's not a short term solution but certainly it will be cheap and be a long term investment.
I know someone who had a working dog stolen recently. They flooded the like’s ebay's and freebay's with lots of pictures etc so it meant the Dog was virtually impossible to sell, it was the returned.
I do not think they would return it but the same tack ticks could make it more difficult for them to shift it, if you listed serial numbers as well it may help.
I know that means it will probably get dumped, but if they do not profit from the crime it can only help.
Just an idea...
My bikes live in my attic flat - including the tandem - 106 stairs and a purpose built bike room. One bedroom, sitting room, kitchen, bike room. Makes sense to me
OP not so long ago I heard someone trying to break in (somewhere close- neighbours or ours) but I was dying for a piss.
So I had to do it in the dark. Went down my pant leg and bloody everywhere in the bathroom
I ended up going outside in just boxers with a damp leg still. God knows what a neighbour would have said if they'd have seen me wandering into back gardens like that (holding a lump hammer)
Makes sense to me
but that's the point, really.
Most people think bikes=garage - having a separate bike room in the house makes no sense to them.
Obviously a UPVC house door/window is more secure than a bloody garage door!
Re the house v garage.
I'd happily break into ten garages as there isn't someone/an unknown quantity in the dark waiting inside for me.
Its called escalation. Why bother if you know you are breaking into a uninhabited space that you could fight out of? Climbing through a window means you could easily be cornered. Let's not forget houses contain knife drawers.
In addition its easier to carry a bike out of a shed or garage. Unless you can find exit imagine trying to get a bike out of a window quietly.
Why risk it? Go after the low hanging fruit.
As I said put a bike in a garage/shed at your risk. Only put tools/detriuous in them that you wouldn't mind losing. Not thousands of pounds of kit.
i wouldnt knock the police, considering how the CPS treats cycle theft Im surprised the police waste their time when the CPS either dont prosecute or the courts hand out a waste of time sentence.
its agreen light for thieves at the moment.
I think podges point about the variety of response to various crimes is very relevant. As somebody else said these guys are professional well organised thieves and frankly need too much effort to investigate and bring to court not to mention not being worth much on the Top Trumps systems of statistical monitoring. It's a lot easier to go for minor crime and traffic offences which are more likely to bolster the statistics . What you do about this I don't know. Bikes are just toys to those not in the loop.
The kick up and create merry hell
bullshine Fog
We are NOT measured on STATISTICS, why do people think this when it is simply not true! Don't you think officers would rather catch a burglar than hand out a ticket? I know I would.
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