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Couldn't resist a Daily Wail style title, cos it's actually fun 😛
(Working there i.e. trolling the nation could be a barrel of laughs. Except a friend worked there and she said it was mysogynistic hell, make of that what you will...)
Anyway, this unrelated analysis is about Peppa Pig being a tool to subvert family values and how invented distraction has been used in the media to avoid this topic
It would be interesting to hear what any parents of young kids on here might think
It's a cartoon pig.
And not as good as Ben & Holly.
not as evil as Lenny the Shapeshifting Ickean Lizard, though.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/13/not-only-is-peppa-pig-a-feminist-shes-probably-a-communist-too ]Not only is Peppa Pig a feminist, she's probably a rabid socialist too[/url]
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Ben and Holly, far superior to Pepper Pig.
I must say I do find her rather rude!
I loved Peppa Pig, and really miss it now my kids are older. It was one of the few kids things I could watch repeatedly and still find funny. I had a strong affinity with Daddy Pig for some reason.
Barney the ****ing purple ****ing dinosaur on the other hand I would cheerfully send extinct. Had to ban it in our house because it made daddy so cross.
Peppa Pig is one of the better kids programmes. And it's got Brian Blessed in it! What more could you need!?
That said, i do agree about the Ben and Holly thing.
how about the cycle helmet edit !!!!
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What on earth is that video? English Disco Lovers declare war in defence of peppa pig!?!?!
Ben and Holly rule!
Even after the kids grew out of it/went off it [s]I made them[/s] they still watched it for a while.
The Wise Old Elf was one of my favourites.
The Wise Old Elf was one of my favourites.
+1 and nanny plum. Genius
When the kids grow out of Ben and Holly just start them on Big Knights, which is laugh out loud hilarous (to me anyway).
Every time I go through the Severn Bridge tolls I really have to stop myself asking for the combat option.
I still love the fact that Mr Rude on Mr Men is french. Hilarious, and sending all the right subliminal messages. You just know that in the French version Mr Rude is British as well.
+1 for Ben and Holly - genius.
I would guess that Monsieur Mal-Elevé is probably from Paris...
Hmmmm, Paranoid oddity citing far right nutters ranting, as evidence of a subversive message undermining paternal role models and attempting to split up family's? Nah... don't buy it TBH.
Feels a wee bit [i]"F4J"[/i] to me...
But just for the sake of it, taking his point head on, yes Daddy Pig portrays an oafish, clumsy vision of fatherhood, but he is also well meaning and loving father (he has these overriding, redeeming qualities), and his family, although exasperated by him at times, seem to largely accept his numerous shortcomings because, as a family unit, they appear to love one another.
That to me is how a happy family should function, conscious and aware of one another's issues and flaws but able to exist happily together because they love one another...
Obviously it is a caricature of real life because... well it's about a family of talking pigs, but I think it would be a little more disingenuous if it tried to hold fathers up as some sort of paragon, none of us are without faults, our children generally learn this much earlier than we might imagine, and ultimately their judgement of us as parents will be mostly guided by how well we love and support them as they grow up, not how a couple of fictional cartoon pigs on the telly got along when they were three.
I also agree that Ben and Holly is better...
I have yet to decide whether the little princess really is a little princess or if she lives in squalor with her meth addicted parents and cohorts and has unconscioulsly overlaid her own imagination onto events and people to protect herself.
We've managed to neatly side step Peppa pig (Thank ^%$&Y$!) and have got him hooked on Penguins of Madagascar, which is also, on occasion genuinely laugh out loud funny.
/\ well it wouldn't be a decent kids TV show without a bit of low level drug use.
Edit: oh, and Nanny Plum/ Miss Rabbit make me genuinely lol
The "EndOfYourSlavery" Youtube channel. That's one worth following.
The original send up video of the gent (not sure if he was Asian or Middle Eastern) saying Peppa the Pig is evil etc is comedy gold IMHO. Especially as it really antagonised the nutters into some hilarious Youtube xenophobic rants.
Spot on cookeaa.
Also, although Daddy Pig is a bit of a clot, he also seems to be quite successful. He drives convertible and is [url=
boss at some kind of architectural/surveying firm[/url], where his job is [i]"quite complicated. I take big numbers, transmute them, and calculate their load bearing tangents"[/i].
Which appears to involve solving quadratic equations on his whiteboard:
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I have yet to decide whether the little princess really is a little princess or if she lives in squalor with her meth addicted parents and cohorts and has unconscioulsly overlaid her own imagination onto events and people to protect herself.
That's a very dark, but entirely understandable interpretation...
If you really want to bend their little minds get them watching [i]'Adventure Time'[/i] our eldest got into it for a little while, then she got a little scared of it, had a couple of nightmares (it's full of Vampires and monsters and stuff) So we no longer watch it, but if Peppa pig is "Subverting the family", I'm really not sure what messages that program is sending...
Thinking back to my own childhood, none of the crap I watched seems to have affected my parental relationships long term, Although Button Moon gave me a fear of spoons, Thundercats did make me want to be a cross bred Cat-person, battling an Evil mummified git and his minions, and Transformers made me want to be a giant robot/car...
Nanny Plum and Mrs Rabbit are voiced by the same person from memory (but I'm guessing you already knew that).
The Welsh elf always tickles me too, one of the best Ben and Holly episodes has to be when they are stuck on the desert island.
Hang on a minute...
So the bloke in that video isn't doing some sort of Brass tacks style parody? He's serious?
My kids often refer to me as Daddy Pig and talk about my big fat tummy. Little bastards.
Also used to love Little Princess. Tbe genius of the General character, managing to out-camp Julian Clary's narration.
Both of the programmes are ace. Yes B+H takes the glory but I could watch them all day long...and that's without Junior there for company.
I do like how Miss Rabbit works Everywhere though!!!
If you really want to bend their little minds get them watching 'Adventure Time' our eldest got into it for a little while
Adventure Time is really, really weird. Prefer SpongeBob and the Penguins, though.
Miss Rabbit is Nanny Plumb!
Seriously that's some flick up nonsense.
Does the Fairy play the Rabbit (oh er!) or the Rabbit play the Fairy...
Arghhhhhhhhhh!!!
Anyway, it's for a good cause, even if it's a £1
We're alright , we don't watch channel 5. 😉
Probably just as well because my boy IS Stuey Griffin.
Ben and Holly rocks! The Mrs takes the piss as I'll leave it on for a while if the kids have gone to bed, nothing beats a Wise Old Elf "NANNY PLLLUUUUMM"...
Best Peppa Pig episode evaa! "I've seen him eat flies!!!"
Vid in the OP is just plain bat shit mental!
Ahem, that is all.
My wife actually encourages me to use Daddy Pig as a role model. She says he's so calm and gentle when things go wrong.
I also prefer Ben & Holly. Made by the same people of course, so must be some subversion going on there too. Maybe depicting the upper class elite (Fairy royalty) v working class (Elves)?
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/nov/16/italian-woman-sues-peppa-pig ]Poor old Gabriella Goat....[/url]
Maybe depicting the upper class elite (Fairy royalty) v working class (Elves)?
But but.. elves love to work.
And we're elves.
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I can't believe people prefer Ben and Holly to Peppa Pig. Next you;ll be saying you like Baby Jake. Anyway, Dino Paws is the bestymost.
I like them both equally. (Okay, so Ben & Holly has the edge)
Is that richplanet site real? Or is it a sort of DIY "The Day Today"
It's all about Dragons in my house now. My four year old daughter watches it obsessively.
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Which is good because it is pretty watchable and quite funny in parts.
That guy making the video is a fool - he admits at the beginning that he doesnt't have kids and then concludes that the programme is an attempt to subvert the family unit. How would he know? - PP - all families can identify with Daddy Pig antics/failures it's satire is it not? Does the Simpsons not do the same thing?
Bollox mate, go and get a sense of humour, life is too short.
Nanny Plum has the most annoying, flat, monotonous voice. Which I am sure is intended but it's still enough to make me want to switch it off.
Little Princess is all about a little girl that doesn't realise that she is growing up in an asylum surrounded by lunatics.
That guy making the video is a fool - he admits at the beginning that he doesnt't have kids and then concludes that the programme is an attempt to subvert the family unit. How would he know?
Exactly. Crazy deluded fool. I imagine he sees "subversion" everywhere in his life.
The gnome in Ben and Holly is the best. The one where they go camping is fantastic. I still sing the gnome song to myself now.
Penguins for FTW......
Smile and Wave Boys.... Smile and Wave....
Sky 601 and 602 are my go to channel at the moment - Adventure Time and The Regular Show. Brilliant! Both a bit Ren and Stimpy-esque.
I do miss The Marvellous Misadventures of Flapjack, though.
[quote=GrahamS ]Also, although Daddy Pig is a bit of a clot, he also seems to be quite successful.
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Which appears to involve solving quadratic equations on his whiteboard:
With lots of different coloured pens.
Which appears to involve solving quadratic equations on his whiteboard:
racist
We're fans of Hopster here. Lots of great kids TV shows available on demand, can watch on tablets, iPhones and now on TV (subscription only) - much better choice than BBC and no adverts.
Our kids love it.
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Sorry, "his board-of-caucasian-origin" 😆
Lots of great kids TV shows available on demand, can watch on tablets, iPhones and now on TV (subscription only) - much better choice than BBC and no adverts.
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BBC has no adverts, is available on demand, can be watched on tables and iPhones, and has two children's channels available and they produce their own content too.
Plus it is "free".
GrahamS - Member
It's all about Dragons in my house now. My four year old daughter watches it obsessively.Which is good because it is pretty watchable and quite funny in parts.
It's good, but nowhere near as good as the original stories. Try and get hold of the audio books read by David Tennant, they are fantastic.
Oooh might try that geoffj cheers. We got some of the books but they are a bit old for her yet (text heavy, not enough pictures for a four year old).
Ben and Holly - is it just me or is there always some kind of tension between Nanny Plum and the Wise Old Elf - Like ex-lovers?
smurf - Member
We're fans of Hopster here. Lots of great kids TV shows available on demand, can watch on tablets, iPhones and now on TV (subscription only) - much better choice than BBC and no adverts.Our kids love it.
I can only assume you live in another country where iPlayer isn't available for copyright reasons?
And even the commercial channels have the adverts removed when using catch-up.
Which saves so much fast-forwarding... 😀
An orange from home ...
Wards of the gnone
Ben and Holly - is it just me or is there always some kind of tension between Nanny Plum and the Wise Old Elf - Like ex-lovers?
100% sexual tension.
Either that or she caught him in a compromising position with Gaston.
Christ, that was just depressing, especially the semi-literate Have-your-say bit. I really am starting to believe that the world would be better off without the internet.......
Having said that, Peppa Pig World certainly subverted a large amount of money out of my wallet. And, yes, Ben and Holly is better and Nanny Plum has a sexy voice!
Another vote for Ben & Holly, and I love the fact that the Wise Old Elf ( and Grandad Pig) is voiced by Parker from Thunderbirds. And Nanny Plum is hilarious.
Surely If your kids are basing their opinion of you as their father on the behaviour of an animated pig then you are probably failing as their dad any way so subversion is a moot point.
nanny plum/mrs rabbit is genius, love her sarcastic delivery
daddy pig definitely some sort of architect/construction engineer
The wonderful world of concrete had me lol
1min25s in
Big Bad Barry ......
😆
There's a lad who I work with called Barry, he always wears a bobhat. He's now know as bobhat Barry but you have to say it in the same tone/accent as Mr Elf delivers big bad Barry.
Little things!