According to Twitter and their website:

http://www.pacecycles.com/rc127-bike-page

Looks nice. And 29er compatible too. Another to add to the wanted list.

Good spot!
Very modern geometry, especially when you stick the 29er wheels in it.
Similar to the Last Forward V2. Very competitive price too. Lovely!

What on earth does ‘Out back there’s room for a 142mm boosted hub’ mean? Is it 142mm or 148mm?

Oooh, nice. could do with a reach value on there but otherwise it does look good

What on earth does ‘Out back there’s room for a 142mm boosted hub’ mean? Is it 142mm or 148mm?

It goes with the

“designed around the very latest 27.5x 2.6” Plus tyre size”

Appears to be a new standard of plus size, sort of half a plus…

diesel like grip

?

Appears to be a new standard of plus size, sort of half a plus…

Muffin tops?

The advertising copy reads like it was written by a 16 year old and steel tapered headtubes look weird, but I wouldn’t kick it out of my garage 😀

Looks tidy and that orange and black paint scheme is great. Well done Pace.

Isn’t all advertising copy in the bike industry full of superlatives.

Do like that. Degree steeper HA and slacker SA than the Fast Forward, but it’s got the same BB drop and almost same TT.

OOooooooh. Likey!

honourablegeorge – Do like that. Degree steeper HA and slacker SA than the Fast Forward, but it’s got the same BB drop and almost same TT.

Offset headset should cure that. “normal” rear offset and dropout too which is a bonus for me over the FF.

Brake mount on the dropouts too so if its boost, new dropouts could mean it’d go 142. It does however say they are adjustable by 13mm which isn’t instantly obvious from the pics how they do it.

thepodge – Member

Offset headset should cure that. “normal” rear offset and dropout too which is a bonus for me over the FF.

Yep, 142 is nicer – wondering about the tyre clearance – they say 2.6″ 27.5, then say it will take 2.8″ 29ers? Assume it can take 2.8″ 27.5 then right?

I think what they mean is it takes 2.8 27.5 tyres or 29er wheels

With the conflicting information on tyre and axle sizes it looks like that web page was written by On One.

bungalistic – Member
I think what they mean is it takes 2.8 27.5 tyres or 29er wheels

I’m thinking super bendy chainstays that bend arounf 2.8″ 29ers but then curve back in so that 2.8″ 27.5 wont fit.

Pace are not the first and not the last to have poor info on their site.

So many brands could do with casting a second set of eyes over their press / published work.

I rather like that.
But what is “diesel like grip” – will I die?

what is diesel like grip

This guy holds you by the puppy’s so you don’t fall off 😆
[video]https://youtu.be/Pi7P9GnR1e8[/video]

I’m so tempted..
I’ve got a set of 650b+ wheels & 29er wheels in 142mm sitting here.. plus some other bits.

I’ll ping an email over to confirm hub spacing first I think.

But what is “diesel like grip” – will I die?

Diesel is the cause of 80% of solo motorcycle crashes FACT (not incompetence, oh no, no way, it was diesel) It does not have much grip.

No reach measurements for some bizarre reason.

My estimates say about 440mm

Nice numbers. Not in the market for a new hardtail, but if I was this would be top of the list.

My estimates say about 440mm

For the medium?

I was thinking the same ballpark.

The advertising copy looks like it was written by a 16 year old and steel tapered headtubes look weird, but I wouldn’t kick it out of my garage

Agreed on all counts…

My estimates say about 440mm
For the medium?

I was thinking the same ballpark.

I’m saying closer to 430 than 440 given the 73 SA…

Cokie YGM

So re-drew this in CAD last night based upon the information given on the website and got a reach figure of only 417mm for the medium!

Fingers crossed that’s a mistake and there’s some info missing or my assumptions were incorrect. I guess we probably won’t find out for a few days. Be good if it’s longer than Stanton Sherpa at least.

STW main article says a 142 bolt through rear. Not sure what the boosted part of the pace website refers to.

Reach is surely wrong Mboy?

mboy – So re-drew this in CAD last night based upon the information given on the website and got a reach figure of only 417mm for the medium!

Just done the same and got 415 medium reach but struggled to find accurate fork info so probably 417 when you put proper details in.

Disappointingly short for such a nice bike otherwise.

Hmm, also disappointed if that really is the reach.
Might have to reconsider the LAST instead.
Shame, as I really like Pace and would prefer to support the UK brand.

It looks nice but looks to have the same dropouts that were on the RC104 – simply the most annoying adjustable dropouts I’ve ever used 👿

Reach is short too.

I’d need a 90mm stem in the largest size and possibly a layback post and Im hardly a giant 🙁

coomber – Member

STW main article says a 142 bolt through rear. Not sure what the boosted part of the pace website refers to.

Reach is surely wrong Mboy?

STW also say its got a 73.5 seat angle then include a pic of the geo chart where it shows it as 73 😳

Given the standard 127 blurb lists it as using a 142, and this 127+ has a ‘boosted’ 142 id think that meant 148.

I did a reach calc for the large and got around 427mm without sag (it gives a bb drop of 56mm and height as 300mm, which suggests no sag with 27+ wheels).

Bit short but not massively so for a 140mm forked hardtail, which will grow a lot with sag.

Love the colour.
Interested in knowing some of the ambiguous spec.

“Diesel like grip” is my new favourite ad copy. Never a truer word, Nobby Nics do grip like oil.

Replacable dropouts could account for the 142/148 confusion incidentally.

Really fancy this.
Do you reckon I’d be able to get a Pike/Reverb build below 2k?

It’s a Pace. If anything goes wrong you’re on your own.

TBH that is exactly my thoughts ScienceOfficer, might look great but no use if they won’t support it.

They’ve updated the website with reach
M 418
L 435

As we suspected then, modern wheel / tyre, modern head angle, retro reach.

Looks nice but wont be getting my cash.

Scienceofficer – Member

It’s a Pace. If anything goes wrong you’re on your own. If anything goes wrong, I’ll go and see them in their shop. Mr Carter seemed as pleasant as ever when I chatted to him at the Boltby Bash.

As we suspected then, modern wheel / tyre, modern head angle, retro reach.

Not everyone likes a super long reach. Stanton frames for one have quite a short reach, which contributes in part to their great handling traits.