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Seems like MOBAC 1.8 is not able to download OS maps anymore - disaster!

Does anyone have a fix, or another method for downloading OS maps for use in Orux? I have a bunch of memory map files but no way to convert them.

I love my Orux it does everything including ANT+ HRM, cadence, speed, power and it gets real elevation data from my phone's barometer, has route tracking with alarms, and syncs with mapmytracks so my other half knows where to rescue me from etc etc. Hence I'd rather like to be able to download OS maps for new areas instead of having to move to a lesser app....


 
Posted : 09/04/2015 9:46 am
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OruxMaps is great ๐Ÿ™‚

I've dropped you an email...


 
Posted : 09/04/2015 3:10 pm
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If MOBAC isn't working I'm stuck as well. Shame as I think oruxmaps is a great application.

What can I do nre? If you don't mind sharing ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 09/04/2015 3:26 pm
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Thanks folks. Miguelo you've got mail


 
Posted : 09/04/2015 7:40 pm
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for me too, is there any fix. I also notice that many of the android apps that used to display Ordnance survey maps no longer do so.
Any help appreciated.


 
Posted : 14/04/2015 11:13 pm
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same here. My googlefu failed to find a solution.


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 8:32 am
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I briefly looked into this last week and have a theory about what's happened and how normal service can be resumed. Watch this space...


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 8:33 am
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I wonder if this is linked to the same issue back country navigator app is having with OS mapping


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:46 pm
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FWIW, if you're really stuck, I have the version of Oruxmaps which allows you to access OS maps directly. I can share it if this is a permanent issue.


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:48 pm
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Mapflipper app for strava is also suffering - loads of tiles missing.


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:49 pm
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[quote=nemesis said]FWIW, if you're really stuck, I have the version of Oruxmaps which allows you to access OS maps directly. I can share it if this is a permanent issue.

Does the OS mapping part still work ? ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:50 pm
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Yep... I can still access OS maps live (though I have downloaded them)

EDIT though by the looks of it, the 1:25k is no longer available but 1:50k is.


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:53 pm
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OS mapping in Maverick on Android has died over the past week, bit annoying, it's a pretty good app but useless for what I want without the OS stuff. Tiles are now being filled in with a basic outline map showing roads, place names, and not much else (previously cached stuff is still fine obviously).

I assume this is related to the OS having recently launched their own mapping app, with paid-for tilesets.


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 1:58 pm
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Just realised that it's my cache still showing OS maps at 1:50k - as mintimperial is finding, while I can still access OS maps online, they're not with proper detail. Lucky I've got them downloaded...


 
Posted : 15/04/2015 2:00 pm
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I have a work around for OruxMaps only. With thanks to NRE I can help the next person. Miguel didn't respond to my email so 1st person to request it here will get my help.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 12:05 pm
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Yes please!


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 12:47 pm
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YGM nemesis


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 1:46 pm
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Nemesis doesn't need the workaround. Next?


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 2:05 pm
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Yes please


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 3:10 pm
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Is this to get OS map data when using Orux Maps? If yes, then I'd like to know the work around please.


 
Posted : 17/04/2015 3:26 pm
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bspoked and jairaj YGM


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 7:19 am
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I too would like the fix please. Anyone.....
thanks


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 9:31 am
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Cheers Pfrumpy.

Panmat - you need to add an email address to your profile.


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 9:33 am
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Sorry email added to account.
Thanks


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 11:29 am
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if someone would be so kind ...


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 3:23 pm
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Yes, if someone doesn't mind. email in profile.


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 3:42 pm
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Ditto please, email in profile.


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 4:10 pm
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Hi pfrumpy not sure why you did not receive my email but I'm definitely still interested...


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 5:44 pm
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I'd be keen for a work around if someone would be kind enough to share. Please. Thank you.


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 7:15 pm
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Struggling with this myself. Anyone able to pass on the wisdom? email in profile. Many thanks in advance


 
Posted : 18/04/2015 10:51 pm
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Panmat, Mad Bill. YGM


 
Posted : 19/04/2015 10:25 am
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If someone could share the Orux OS mapping love with me that would be great. Thanks in advance.


 
Posted : 19/04/2015 11:26 am
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I had an email from Back Country Navigator yesterday about a similar issue -

Hello Outdoor Enthusiasts

I wanted to mention some things to be aware of in regards to map sources in some places around the world.ย 

It is important to note that BackCountry Navigator takes advantage of map sources when they are freely available. That means we don't always have control over what happens with them, and certainly can't guarantee that they will always be free. For the most part, though, that's worked out well.ย 

UK Map Sources
As people from the UK tell me in no uncertain terms, they want those OS Explorer maps, and the app is utterly useless without them.
Since Bing bought up Multimap many years ago, there has been some uncertainty about access. It worked smoothly for three years and stopped working abruptly last week.ย 
We may have a solution now in 5.7.3 and will monitor it. ย See the latest on the solution.ย 
http://support.crittermap.com/entries/66110494-OS-Explorer-Map-Issues

We appreciate the patience of most of you throughout this process.

Sounds like it might be related?


 
Posted : 19/04/2015 11:44 am
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The Pinkster is right, definately related.

I found something of a fix, not 100%, but whilst I was waiting for someone to share with me the solution that is being talked about on here...

Follow The Pinkster's link

Follow the instructions on creating your own Bing key (post by Nathan 14th April).

Drop this key into the following line in the file onlinemapsources.xlm:

"&key=PLACEYOURKEYHERE]]>"

at the end of where is says

"tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/r{$q}.png?g=41&productSet=mmOS"

It should now read:

"tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/r{$q}.png?g=41&productSet=mmOS&key=PLACEYOURKEYHERE]]>"

save the onlinemapsources.xml file

restart Orux

you might need to clear your map cache if it has pulled in to many of the lower detail tiles.

This is good for 1:50,000 but nothing else


 
Posted : 19/04/2015 9:35 pm
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Follow on from last post, to get mobac working again, create a new txt file and copy the text between the stars(**)to it.
Name it whatever perhaps OS25K and save it with a .bsh extension (Mobac reads these) and place it in the mapsources folder within mobac.
Remembering to replace Place your key here with your own key.

Hope this helps. nb its good down to 25k maps

*******************************************************************
This method is called for each tile: input parameters for this script: "zoom", "x" and "y"
**/
String getTileUrl( int zoom, int x, int y ) {

return "http://ak.t3.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/r" + encodeQuadTree(zoom, x, y) + "?g=3451&productSet=mmOS&key=Place Your Key Here";
}

String encodeQuadTree( int zoom, int x, int y) {

char[] numChar = {'0', '1', '2', '3'};
char[] tileNum = new char[zoom];
for (int i = zoom - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
// Binary encoding using ones for x and twos for y. if a bit
// is set in x and y we get a three.
int num = (x % 2) | ((y % 2) << 1);
tileNum[i] = numChar[num];
x >>= 1;
y >>= 1;
}
return new String(tileNum);
}

/**
This method is called also for each tile (implementation optional)
It allows to set HTTP headers like "Referer" or cookies the server
wants to see.
**/
void addHeaders( java.net.HttpURLConnection conn) {}

***********************************************************************


 
Posted : 19/04/2015 10:37 pm
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panmat thanks! Strange thing - I don't have a mapsources directory.... I'm on windows 7 and MOBAC 1.8

I created the file with my own new shiny bing key but all the tiles in my MOBAC are showing red crosses so something is obv wrong.

Anyone else get this working?


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 10:24 am
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fasterferret, I got a bit lost following your instructions.

I went to the link from The Pinkster and followed the instructions by Nathan. I have my person key and I have modified the mmoswithkey.xml file with my key.

Where do I place this file? Or do I copy the text into the onlinemapsources.xml file?


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 1:04 pm
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Also there appears to be two methods to get the OS maps back.

nre's method and fasterferret's method.

nre's method requires the workaround to be passed from user to user. Simon has kindly offered to help me out with this. Any one else needing the workaorund please email me and I will pass on the details to the first few people.


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 1:09 pm
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Tagging this for a proper read later on.

I'll be p155ed off if they've managed to shut down MOBAC 1.8 too.

Might be linked but might be a coincidence but my Garmin would would only upload through Explorer at the weekend and said that Chrome no longer supports the Garmin plug in !?!


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 2:27 pm
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not sure if this is of any use to you but....

http://www.bing.com/maps/

first dropdown... select Ordanance Survey


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 4:07 pm
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MOBAC 1.9 allows you to define your own mapsources in a manner compatible with Bing mapping, I've generated my own Bing map key and will put that into a MOBAC custom mapsource*. Should work, I'll report back tonight!

* OS maps using Bing as the tile source.


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 4:08 pm
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I've been using MOBAC 1.8 to create my own custom maps to download and use in my Garmin 800 and it's been working fine for a few years now. It was showing them up fine on MOBAC on Staurday night but I didnt try to down load a map.

Is this what has stopped working or now or is it just the Orax maps that are effected ?


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 4:22 pm
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MOBAC will no longer fetch new map tiles in OS format.


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 4:43 pm
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It was displaying the maps on Saturday night. Is it displaying but not down loading then, and is the fix people have been talking about just for Orax then ?


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 5:17 pm
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Tried MOBAC briefly last night... and ohhhhhhhhhhh bo11ock5 !!!

It displays the OS OK until you start zooming in to level 14 & 15 which is when it switches from 1:50,000 to 1:25,000 maps, and then it appeared to be leaving random squares out reverting to a basic Google map. When I tried creating a custom map and opening it in Google Earth it was as it was on the screen IE with the tiles missing. It could be that it was displaying the maps I'd downloaded before and no new ones in my new selection so I need to try it in a totally new area where I haven't created a map before.

So, is there a fix so you can still download the custom 1:25,000 Explorer maps either in 1.8 or 1.9 as allthepies has suggested ?

Don't you just hate it when when the loop holes gets closed by the powers that be!!!


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 9:59 am
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