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1. Taff - Member

   I'm on the lookout for some new wheels and am after the guidance from the oracles! Currently running 717 discs and love them for their strength and weight. Don't really know what alternatives to use as always used 717s or their predecessors. So... I'm after something new, don't mind if they are 717s or something similar but don't know what's good outside of the Mavic bubble. IN terms of hubs I wanted them to be sealed, 6 bolt and QR.

   So far the best deals I've come across are:

   On-One Wheelset - don't know the weight or any other details.

   Switch Hubs & 717 rims

   Alex rims & Switch hubs same as above really, just slightly different rims.

   Stans rims & Switch hubs - OK, don't know much about tubleless but I hear it's going to be popular!!

   If anyone else can suggest anything else or has any views on the above then I would be grateful.

   Thankyou please.

   Posted 1 year ago #
2. RealMan - Member

   Stans rims of your choice on pro II is the standard wheelset of choice. Might be above your budget though, how much you want to spend?

   Posted 1 year ago #
3. Taff - Member

   circa £200. You're right I can't afford hope/stans although. My front 717/hope xc is mint so there is potnetial to sell it for decent money afterwards or just get a rear but I still think £190 for a single rear wheel is expensive!

   Posted 1 year ago #
4. Taff - Member

   I think I may be swaying towards the Stans Crest and Switch combo. Bit more than my budget but I reckon selling my hope xc/717 which is in good condition should claw some money back. Got a ropey old rear XT hub and 717 which could sell for paenuts but may keep me (back in) in her good books!

   Posted 1 year ago #
5. djflexure - Member

   Just ordered these for the wife. Look like they are worth a punt for 180. Include stans rim tape and valves.

   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=63318

   Posted 1 year ago #
6. HarveyStedham - Member

   I take it you are after fairly light xc wheelset?

   I would normally recomened the hope stans combo also, but as you cant stretch that far then out of that list i would choose the switch/stans wheels. You can also then go tubeless, which is a bit of faff to set up but well worth it once done.

   Othrwise on crc there is this:

   http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=63318

   Seem to have a stans licensed rim design so should go tubeless fine too.

   Posted 1 year ago #
7. Onzadog - Member

   What brakes are you running? I'm selling some hope bulb hubs with flow rims for £125. They are the 5 bolt pattern but hope still custom cut rotors.

   Posted 1 year ago #
8. Taff - Member

   I like the looks of the Ringle wheels. Look like better value than the switch/stans but then you are getting authentic stans I suppose. I need to google tubeless set ups. No idea how they work...

   Posted 1 year ago #
9. Taff - Member

   24 holes? How strong would that be? Only ever had 36 or 32.

   Posted 1 year ago #
10. Nobby - Member

    Never had a problem with my 24 spoked wheels.

    those black flags look proper good value.

    Posted 1 year ago #
11. HarveyStedham - Member

    my mate has never had any problem with his 24 spoke crossrides (at least i think they 24...) on his hardtail.

    I have had no issues on my 24 s hope pro 3/355 altho i only weigh about 10stone. I chose to run a rear 32 as i have a stupidly stiff hardtail, but im sure i would have got away with the 24 also.

    Posted 1 year ago #
12. Taff - Member

    Wicked. Bit of comfort there. Im' only just over 10stone myself and not normally a harsh rider so should be ok.

    Edit: I may have recently put some weight on.. almost 11 stone!

    Posted 1 year ago #
13. Taff - Member

    I'm getting conufsed about what's actually required. Can these be run with a normal tube as well? It comes with some gunk and valves so what else would I need for a tubeless set up?

    Posted 1 year ago #
14. djflexure - Member

    Yes you can run with tubes as per normal.
    Otherwise a UST or LUST tyre may be required.

    Many 'normal' tyres can apparently also run tubeless.

    Low vol tyres (up to 2.3 or so) seem to inflate easily with a track pump.

    I have had to use CO2 for bigger tyres but have now dumped tubeless on my bigger bike.

    Tubeless works fine on XC bike and helps protect against thorns on the local routes I do.

    Posted 1 year ago #
15. stayhigh - Member

    those black flag wheels do look a right good bargain, shae about the gold hubs and nipples though, has put me right off

    Posted 1 year ago #
16. Taff - Member

    Hadn't noticed the gold hubs. Not sure that fits in with my clour regime but I'm tempted to say sod it...

    Posted 1 year ago #
17. dh - Member

    these might be ok - maybe a bit heavy?

    linky

    Posted 1 year ago #
18. Northwind - Member

    Sorely tempted by the 29er Blackflags myself, stunning value... Can't say I'm blown over by Ringle hubs though.

    Posted 1 year ago #
19. Taff - Member

    Dh - I did look at those but at that width they can't be far off my old D321s so some of my skinny tyres would be no good. Still really good value for money though.

    North wind - at that price I think it's worth the risk. A blind man would be pleased to see them!

    Posted 1 year ago #
20. neninja - Member

    I've got a set of Black Flag Pro's and have been very impressed with them.

    Spin a fair bit longer than my Pro2's if you set them spinning and time them.

    At £180 that's a steal for decent wheels complete with the yellow tape, valves and sealant to convert tubeless. It doesn't say so in the description but they come with QR, 15mm and 20mm adapters too I think.

    Posted 1 year ago #
21. Taff - Member

    Hi Neninja, With the good reviews on here and on the net I found it rude not to buy them. I don't think they will quite go with my colour scheme but never mind
    
    Just need to find some tubeless tyres now.

    I will apologise in advance though as I think I will be bugging you all about fitting the tyres as I have no idea at the moment despite a 30minute conversation with my brother in law!

    Posted 1 year ago #
22. neninja - Member

    I wouldn't worry about the colour, gold hubs will just look a bit flashy.

    I've set up 7 sets of Stans rims tubeless (5 for myself and 2 for mates) and all have been with regular tyres and not tubeless specific or UST tyres.

    Not had any problems with any of them so if you like the tyres you have (look like Fire Pro) just use them.

    Posted 1 year ago #
23. Taff - Member

    My rear is nailed anyway so that will get changed hopefully ready for the STW new years ride. I've heard about regular tyres being used. Will try it out and see how it goes. Many thanks.

    Posted 1 year ago #
24. Shorty121 - Member

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/02/01/review-sun-ringle-black-flag-pro-29er-wheels-plus-originals/

    Looks like they do come with the adaptors.

    Just changed canceled my order with super star and put an order in for these

    Posted 1 year ago #
25. Taff - Member

    you get adapters for the front wheel but the rear wheel adapters need to be bought, think one of the reviews said 8.99

    Posted 1 year ago #
26. Shorty121 - Member

    Yeah I read that aswell.

    Posted 1 year ago #
27. stayhigh - Member

    The Chargers look a bit better, not entirely convinced by the graphics but they can always be peeled off.

    Not sure theres much of a weight saving between them and the Crossride I currently have on though but do have the advantage of being tubeless ready.

    Hmmm, goes off to ponder...

    Posted 1 year ago #
28. kamina - Member

    The black flags look like they'd suit me well for a light second wheelset, but I'm worried about the proprietary rims. What happens when you taco one? Will they send you a new one or do you have to send the wheel in? What about spokes? Can you order spares? Looking at Mavics I can immediately find spares (atleast for the deemax) online, but nothing on these...

    Posted 1 year ago #
29. Shorty121 - Member

    Yeah the spares is the bit I am only worried about

    Posted 1 year ago #
30. stayhigh - Member

    Its a good point with the spares, who does the UK distribution for Sun? I would have thought though any problems with them they would go back to CRC?

    Posted 1 year ago #
31. Taff - Member

    who does the UK distribution for Sun

    Hotlines I think.

    Don't go giving me negatives now... far too late

    Posted 1 year ago #
32. stayhigh - Member

    hmmm dont Hotlines have a less then speedy reputation?

    Posted 1 year ago #
33. Shorty121 - Member

    Taff - I'm thinking the same as I ordered a set aswell

    Posted 1 year ago #
34. Taff - Member

    I've been running the same wheels for eyars, never pringled, broken a spoke or gone too far out of true. Mates have had Mavics and local shops have had to order stuff in which has taken a few weeks. I'll run the risk. I have a years warranty with CRC so I'm happy

    Posted 1 year ago #
35. Shorty121 - Member

    Ah you mean you already have that set of wheels?

    Posted 1 year ago #

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