Thanks for the info , seems to be a big country only bike, I'll see if I can try one and see where it goes, 
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New Orange Patriot
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Posted 8 months ago #
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I'll weigh it over the weekend and let you know.
Ha, ha - I noticed that. I was with you and the guy on the Commencal on the way back up Mam Tor.
Thanks for the info , seems to be a big country only bike, I'll see if I can try one and see where it goes,
The new one seems to be more 'big country' as you put it but I wouldn't let that put you off. The grin factor alone might be worth the extra weight etc.
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If I do get one it will be 180mm Float RC2 fork, and Float RP23 , Flows, and XT 1 x 10, and a sram dropper post, I guess around 32lb-34lb , I never seem to ge down low on weights compared to most people
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Ok demo over.
I'm 5ft 8 and weigh 15.5 stone and have average fitness.
Spec of demo bike
Medium
Fox van 180 fork
Fox van coil shock
Renthal fatboy bar and stem.
Avid elixr brakes.It ride a lot better than expected uphill and was very comfy and balanced. It bobbed a bit on pedalling but I managed to dial some if that out on the shock. It flew downhill and ate the rocks and techy stuff for fun, it never felt like it would fling me off. I reckon with a few weeks to play with setup the bike would be 100%
I'd just keep the 66's in the front and save money on upgrading to the fox. I'd also spec the cane creek double barrell for the rear to help keep it stiff on the pedalling.
This is no all day bike but for rides of 2 to 3 hours its brilliant, Aslong as you dont mind pushing up the really steep stuff
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Thanks phil5 feedback sounds good, I have a demo booked , earliest I can get mid November,
I've been going through my bits and today I put my 36's set to 160mm, I bought some off set bushes for my Van R shock and I've fitted some good DH tyres to my Flows ,I'm going to fit these to my 5 and see how it rides,should be 66deg head angle and BB lowered about 10mm ish, if it rides well at least I can swop and change for some DH days, I'm certainly not going to reach the limits with my skill level,
so I will have one bike with two modes , trailbike and DH orientated .
Just wish I could afford two bikes
can't wait to try the new build, I' sure the uphills will be a challenge.
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I have just demod one from Bike treks ambleside today,It was a great bike to ride and climbed surprisingly well,however the weight is a noticable penalty and it really only works when the trail gets very gnarly or steep.
stick with the five imho,its an awesome alrounder..
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I did bike teens too
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Saw one in the flesh in Alpine Bikes at Glentress. Ugly looking thing, and I like the 5, but the new Patriot looked really cheap, clunky and industrial. No doubt it rides superbly, but it's not a thing of beauty.
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I meant biketreks lol. Gavgas which patriot did you take out?
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It was a small 16ins wth Marzochi forks coil rear spring..
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Was it afternoon or morning? The green medium was good
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Joe Barnes makes the Patriot look like a superb all rounder but don't take that seriously as Joe would make any bike look stupid fast up or downhill and is fitter than a triathlete. I would say the Patriot is far too much bike for all day UK and I struggle to see where a bike like that fits in away from the Alps etc. However it maybe good in the UK if you can only afford one bike and want to do downhilling as well as mountain riding?
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I don't do all day rides and I kind of fell in love with it
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I think my 5 build probably feels as close as I can get to a Patriot, as I thought it was tougher on the climbs but going down for an already very stable and quick bike it felt bomb proof and I had to back off because of me and not the bike, makes me think I need a loto win
Joe Barnes is awesome rider he makes the Patriot look like a flying machine Posted 7 months ago # -
I've got a 5 and a new Patriot (perks of being an Orange dealer i guess!)
I have to say that the Patriot is pretty much gathering dust now that the lifts are shut. The Five is out and loving it - probably done about 3000m of climbing in the past 4 days - and riding down of course. There's no way in hell I'd have done it on my Patriot (37lbs, CCDB, Fox VAN RC2, Dualply tyres etc).
I could get it down to about 33lbs with an RP23, tubeless 2.35 tires, and a Float fork. But, the carpark test of the RP23 had me changing the shock back to the CCDB. And then taking the Five out instead!
Having said that, I did complete some epic rides on the Patriot in the summer - lift assisted but with a good 500m or so climbing per day, and it coped - it does pedal well, but that's well for a 180mm bike.
Personally, if you're climbing the same amount as descending (i.e. no uplifts) - then stick with a Five or a 160, the Patriot is too much.
Posted 7 months ago # -
BoardinBob - Member
Saw one in the flesh in Alpine Bikes at Glentress. Ugly looking thing
I like it... Sort of brutalist. Not entirely sure I see the point of it mind but still.
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