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Going through a bit of a garage reshuffle and ideally want to combine two bikes together. I have a sherpa which is built up as an xc bike and a trance 650b frame which is sat unbuilt (as a result of the parts being moved to a reign).

What I'm after is:
-slack (67-68degree head angle)
-100-130mm travel
-29er
-Full size bottle on the top of the downtube

Any suggestions?


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:40 am
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Smuggler


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:42 am
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Horsetheif ?


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:43 am
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Kona Process 111
I think one of the Banshee range would suit too but I forget which one


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:45 am
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picaroon


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:45 am
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Hustler 29r on CRC?
Not sure if this fits the bill but frame is cheap.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:46 am
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Evil Following
Transition Smuggler
Whyte T-129
Kona Process 111
Santa Cruz Hightower

Then there's a few you can't mount a bottle cage inside the frame...

Orange Segment
Banshee Phantom
Banshee Prime

3 years ago people would have called your requirements absurd, but thankfully 29er geometry has moved on!


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:54 am
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The hustler 29 is just the same as the Hammerhead Thumper / Unveil 9 but with a much higher price


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:55 am
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Camber. You didn't mention carbon and on sale but you might as well. Think the HA is 69 thjough

http://www.bikescene.co.uk/Specialized-Camber-Expert-Frame-10942-92-0.html


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:57 am
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You won't get a bottle on the downtube of the Process, so I'm gonna say Smuggler.

Or the Whyte T-129 looks awesome too, but I haven't tried one.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:03 am
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Yeah sorry the Process has the bottle mount under the down tube


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:08 am
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That Hustler on CRC is a total bargain. Head angle 68 degrees.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:12 am
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packer - That Hustler on CRC is a total bargain. Head angle 68 degrees.

As mentioned above, its the exact same frame as someone else was selling but even at the discount price its more than they were selling it for.

The RRP was vastly inflated.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:14 am
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+1 for Salsa Horsethief (it's what I have!)


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:20 am
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Orbea Occam


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:32 am
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Evil Following all the way. This bike just blows my mind every time i ride it.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 11:26 am
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Camber evo,29er,120mm travel. Gets good reviews to from what I've read.
I don't have one but very nearly did last year. Used the money for a road bike instead


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 12:36 pm
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Can you get a switchback Thumper now?


 
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+1 for Orbea Occam. Amazing bike


 
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Having just got off mine I'd say a following......so good it made the trails dry and the sky sunny. It made me smile too


 
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Can you get a switchback Thumper now?

Only with a Cove label on it.

๐Ÿ˜‰

Or secondhand. Email me if you;re after a medium.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 12:54 pm
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Having just got off mine I'd say a following......so good it made the trails dry and the sky sunny. It made me smile too

๐Ÿ˜†

Keep quiet round these parts mate, they'll burn you for being a heretic! ๐Ÿ˜‰

Glad you're still enjoying it... Mine was ace! It's only just made way for a... Evil Wreckoning (which is also ace, there's just more of it).


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 12:58 pm
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Front travel is 10mm more than your range but how about a 29er Codeine?


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 1:00 pm
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Pyga stage max - 123mm rear, up to 140 mm front

2 bottle cages

Don't get one or I'll be v jealous


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 1:04 pm
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It's a shame that fitting in bottle within the front triangle (as is currently popular) limits suspension designs and/or makes for very odd frame shapes (Lapierre I'm looking at you! And Ibis a bit...) Banshee's KS-link performs really well but you can't move the shock mount without changing the leverage ratio and adding extra friction due to increased bushing rotation.


 
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Eh CM?

Anyone mentioned the Evil Following, as you have to recommend the bike you own, it's STW-law

Tallboy 3? Looks like it should fit a bottle


 
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Yup wrong thread!!!!

Couldn't work out how to delete so edited it out


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 1:37 pm
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Are you selling the Sherpa?


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 1:41 pm
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Purely recommending what I've got. But liking it a lot so far so what the hell.

Second hand 2014/2015 Specialized Camber Evo frame, 120mm rear travel, full bottle cage, come in ally or carbon. 140mm Pike, offset shock bush. Not sure but reckon HA is about 67 degrees.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 5:50 pm
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Well I'm not going to reccomend what I own..........

I'm going to reccomend what two of my mates own - camber evo

Both really love it and are quicker than on their old bikes.

That said another mate has just bought a following which looks LOVELY


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 7:20 pm
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If a Horsthief is of interest, I'll shortly be selling a medium Aluminium Split Pivot version, with CK headset and BB and possibly with Pikes too.

Email in profile if interested.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 7:25 pm
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Following. It's an absolute rocket ship. Perfectly balanced, it's like it runs on autopilot. PB on every trail, up or down. Best full suss I've ever ridden.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 9:21 pm
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Smuggler for alu Orbea Occam TR for carbon...

Both great fun


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 10:56 pm
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[i]Camber evo,29er,120mm travel. Gets good reviews to from what I've read.[/i]

Under the recommend what you have...

I bought a s/h Camber evo carbon recently and have upped the Pike to 140mm. Rides well and I'm already PRing descents that I've ridden for years (latterly on a 160/140 26er). Under 29lbs in a large too with hefty tyres, dropper etc.


 
Posted : 05/05/2016 11:29 pm
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Currently trying to get my hands on a liteville 101 to test ride... 2 bottle mounts, 120mm, slack and 29er or 650b


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 4:20 am
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Would you really discount a bike that can't take a water bottle?

Last year's Orange Segment (newest was reviewed yesterday by STW) was fantastic.


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 5:12 am
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Would you really discount a bike that can't take a water bottle?

Studies* have shown that some people hate hydration packs almost as much as Hitler but not quire as annoying as being in a slow moving short queue at the supermarket. They will literally explode if they can't carry 750ml of water somewhere other than the bike frame.

* From the University of Polytechnic's Stuff and Shit Department


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 5:17 am
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Thanks for all the replies. Been interesting looking at all the suggestions in detail.

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Would you really discount a bike that can't take a water bottle?

Bike will generally be used for rides of no longer than 2hours and a water bottle on the frame and a bag in my jersey pocket for tools/tube/crap.

Last year's Orange Segment (newest was reviewed yesterday by STW) was fantastic.

Oranges have never done it for me, the last one I had (Five) was poorly made and developed a number of cracks, it didn't pedal all that well despite endless fiddling with the shock.

Currently trying to get my hands on a liteville 101 to test ride... 2 bottle mounts, 120mm, slack and 29er or 650b

Quite like the look of the liteville. Ticks all the boxes (apart from the price)!


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 7:50 am
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Are you selling the Sherpa?

Not until September at the very earliest. Have the Mega to race first.

Since posting this thread, I've been giving it some thought whether its really possible to consolidate the Trance and Sherpa into one bike. Current train of thought is to build the Trance up as an all day/trail bike (already have wheels/post/forks, just drive train and finishing kit). Then get something more racy than the Sherpa (Trek Procaliber, etc), as the midweek rides I do are with XC whippets and CX racers, on fairly flat trails for the most part.


 
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Pole Evolink 130 is very slack and takes two bottles..


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 8:47 am
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[i]Bike will generally be used for rides of no longer than 2hours and a water bottle on the frame and a bag in my jersey pocket for tools/tube/crap.[/i]

For that you don't really need a bottle, something like this would cover it:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Milestone-Collapsible-Drinking-Carabiner-Camping/dp/B00CLAMG0E

And would fit in a pocket.


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 10:24 am
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Bike will generally be used for rides of no longer than 2hours and a water bottle on the frame and a bag in my jersey pocket for tools/tube/crap.

For that you don't really need a bottle, something like this would cover it:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Milestone-Collapsible-Drinking-Carabiner-Camping/dp/B00CLAMG0E

And would fit in a pocket.

Its an alternative, but not for me. The bikes on the list which don't have bottle cages, I wouldn't consider for other reasons anyway.


 
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Pivot 429?
My mate has one of these. Its a weapon. Light and fast. Its 26lb (max) with 130mm XFusion on the front. Strangely flexy side to side rear end - far more so than the old non boost version, but he says he doesnt notice it at all on the trail.
I'm convinced this bike (and his old one pre boost) is the reason why he wins most of the races he enters around these parts!


 
Posted : 06/05/2016 12:04 pm
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