[Closed] Car drivers - what is your problem?

They know what you did last summer...

they are tossers..Next question?

Jealousy.

they are more important than everyone else.

Sounds like you ride like a pratt an are treated accordingly.

Because I think attaching a motor to a bike is cheating.

You sound like a classic motorbike ****er, perhaps it's you that has the problem?

coz its funny 😈

I used to ride a motorbike before I passed my car test, and always wondered the same thing.

Why all the hatred towards motorcyclists?

Then you get a car and realise that 99% of motorcyclist ride like feching anchors, and car drivers are just taring us with the same brush.

They are probably sick of people riding 1/2 an inch off their rear bumper, thinking that the speed limit only apply to cars, or they have the right to be in front of everyone because they are riding a motorbike and obviously in a rush.

You get the idea.

Edit: I just read your post fully and realised you fit the bill perfectly.

filtering is perfectly legitimate, some car drivers just have a cactus wedged up their arse and hate everyone else who 'pushes in front of them'

I always move over when queuing and I see a bike behind. Often get a thank you wave that shows that what goes around etc. If someone knocked my door mirror i would be pretty annoyed as the last one (2002 Golf) cost £150!

They probably havent seen you as they are too busy texting . . .

I let people filter all the time, but there is some really bad positioning and poor filtering by a lot of motorcyclists...

Troll

Have you considered moving closer to work?

Lets face it, 99% of motorcyclists are useless at riding a bike.

They should make it law to do further training (IAM) for the riders safety, test standard is just to low.

I already take a 'no prisoners' approach to riding, including liberal use of horn/main-beam and have no worry whatsoever with squeezing through narrow (or sometimes, too narrow :oops:) gaps.

I'm guessing folk have gotten fed up with people on bikes acting like bar stewards so they act the same back. What goes around comes around

So how many of those who commented on bike riders skills have a bike licence?

I've had a bike licence for 9 years.

Only had a car licence 5 years, before that it was motorbike everywhere, everyday.

So, is this going to be one of those things where cyclists get annoyed at all being treated the same because of the sins of the few, but are quite happy to do the same to motorcyclists?

Just to answer the question- people obstruct motorbikes because they're fannies. No justification is possible as far as I can see- least of all "Oh but they probably saw some other rider being a knob earlier in the day so it's totally fair game". It achieves nothing, it's potentially unsafe, and it's illegal.

Though- it is a fact that there's an awful lot of bellends on motorbikes. Less so than pushbikes on the road though IMO.

Many motorists ,like many motorcyclists and many cyclists drive and ride in an unsafe ,discourteous manner.
I don't.
You can't change the whole world but you can change the way you behave.
Try it.

I like to see the look of terror in their eyes.

I already take a 'no prisoners' approach to riding, including liberal use of horn/main-beam and have no worry whatsoever with squeezing through narrow (or sometimes, too narrow :oops:) gaps.

So drivers, what gives?

As above, sounds like you drive like a twunt, monkey see monkey do. I don't move over to let motorbikes filter unless I'm already moving and it makes no odds to me and I feel like it at the time. If you want to filter, that's fine, but if I don't want to move over that's also fine.

Why wouldn't you let a bike through? Very odd attitudes here... There are a few dual carriageways I have to drive down regularly where I konow there'll be bikers commuting. I always make the effort to leave a gap wherever possible.

And yes, there are always going to be a few scrat-ends. A biker bashed into my boot mounted bike-rack a few years back - we were stationary in a queue. His female pillion passenger did the whole headshake thing as they weaved they way through the traffic. Later on we found big scratches in the car and on the forks of one of the bikes. Not best pleased.

I already take a 'no prisoners' approach to riding, including liberal use of horn/main-beam and have no worry whatsoever with squeezing through narrow (or sometimes, too narrow :oops:) gaps

Well this attitude wont win you any friends thats for sure..

But maybe they just havent clocked you & maybe they dont have the space to pull over to let you through? I mean youre not the Old Bill are you..Ill happily let someone through IF I think its safe to do so but hey thats my interpretation of things..it may not be the same as yours. Perhaps a little understanding on your part?

they are tossers..Next question?

Helpful TJ.. 🙄

 

Ain't it the truth tho 🙂

Really makes me laugh this. On a supposed cyclists forum but anytime the slightest criticism of cars and car drivers is made people rush to defend the indefensible.

The great god Car rules - even on STW

I reckon the "tossers" comment was fair enough. I've had folk deliberately block my path / pull out in front of me / buzz me whilst on my pushbike. I always think, "tosser".

Well this attitude wont win you any friends thats for sure..

All trolls are my friends, so he's won one at least.

Is "filtering" legal tho? Are we not supposed to treat a bike like any other vehicle? Ie- should they not have to wait in a queue like everyone else?? (if we're talking about say, two lines of traffic waiting at lights..
Any highway code experts? Surely? TJ perhaps?

All modes of transport have their pros and cons. Car; heated seats, air con, surround sound, ability to carry cargo / kids.

Motorbike; filtering through stationary traffic, likelihood of death, erm, excitement...

Why the **** should they wait in traffic if they can safely get between lanes? Just to appease the meat-heads driving from the chippy to the 10-pin bowling alley in the Scenic they're falsely claiming incapacity benefit for on behalf of their imaginary Aunt Regina?

It appears f-e-c-k is now on THE LIST. Sorry father Jack - yer banned.

That's quite impressive commuting 100 miles a day on a bike and not being dead yet so can't be that bad a rider....

I see two regular twunts on my commute, one who undertakes anything that dares to use the second lane, and he does it fast and close, repeatedly. Another can't be bothered to use a roundabout, so cuts off 200 metres of road by driving along a pavement and joining a dual carriageway from a layby.

I don't ever try and block though, its the same with cyclists isn't it...a few idiots spoil things for the rest of us.

As a small hijack, what does the 'cocking the leg' gesture mean? A biker did this to me (the nutter above, I wasn't sure if it was abuse for occupying the outside lane (I was overtaking a tractor and the biker had undertaken the three cars following me before swerving across the lane and trying to buzz my rear bumper with his front tyre) or a thank you for moving over promptly. I saved the same guys life the following day after I did over-shoulder check-mirror-signal-manoeuvre...the life saver was I did a second blind spot check during my manoeuvre, noticed a headlight and he flashed through the gap and rode between a truck and the three cars ovetaking it. He couldn't have stopped if I'd moved across...

I don't block filtering bikers, but I would,like to know why they seem unable to obey speed limits in built up areas.

Bigyinn - Same reason as car drivers fail to obey traffic law?

althepal - filtering is legal.

I always allow all traffic to filter. I never move over to allow traffic to pass - if someone wants to pass it is for them to do it safely, not for me to encourage a manoeuvre.

filtering is legal.

Only if it is accompanied with a take a 'no prisoners' approach, and the liberal use of horn/main-beam, in which case, special dispensation to squeeze into gaps that are too small is given.

Although I personally, take offence to anyone passing me when I'm stuck in heavy traffic - they're clearly taking the piss. Specially cyclists.

motorbikers do like the best of all worlds though, which is a tiny bit irritating sometimes. They'll filter "because they're not part of the traffic" but then also will shove their way into the ("safe") gap between cars when it suits them, extending the queue for traffic lights etc.

If I commuted somewhere with lots of bikes doing this I'd prob get narked with them too

scaredy pants - but it is no loss to you at all - you will end up behind the same car in the next traffic jam

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TandemJeremy - Member
Bigyinn - Same reason as car drivers fail to obey traffic law?

oh and i will pull over for bikers if a, iv have seen them and b, there is room for me to do so. Its just a shame that only 1 in 4 will thank you for doing so.
i also dislike it when they buzz me on my bike they don't need to get that close to me.

TandemJeremy - Member

scaredy pants - but it is no loss to you at all - you will end up behind the same car in the next traffic jam

Minor "incidents" for sure, but as I say if it happened to me at several lights every day (or if I was really late for something 😉 ) I might get pissed off

(same principle as cars who undertake a long queue of cars on motorways and then shove in to the next lane despite a full queue already there - potentially dangerous and also selfish)

Is "filtering" legal tho? ... Any highway code experts?

Rule 88 covers filtering under 'manoeuvring'.

Problem is, you only notice the nobbers. The vast majority of motorcyclists and car drivers are fairly sensible, but every now and again you'll get someone who think it's clever to filter at 100mph on one wheel, or a good idea to swerve violently at a (motor)cyclist. How often do you get home and say to your OH, "oh, I drove bast a BMW today, his driving was exemplary"? It's not that it doesn't happen, just that it doesn't stand out. Conclusion - all motorcyclists / car drivers / cyclists / BMW owners are asshats; quick, pass me the Internets.

if someone wants to pass it is for them to do it safely, not for me to encourage a manoeuvre.

I had bikes up into my mid thirties until I realised cars were betterer for carrying mountainbikes and that but, I actually used to hate it when folk always pulled over. They would very often do it quite dangerously at some speed and yank themselves over into the ditch/kerb. Stupid... I'm on a bike, have far greater acceleration and can come past when 'I' deem it to be safe, not when someone in front pulls over.

To be fair, the OP makes himself sound like a bit of spanner.
I always pull over to let bikes by in bumper to bumper traffic but never move if in the general flow of traffic, I'll leave that up to them.