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At the current rate of deterioration in the global weather systems patterns!
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ernie_lynchFree Member
Here’s another correlation for you kaesae.
What a ridiculous graph Spin. Only 17 pirates in 2000 ? ………where the hell did they get that figure from? 😕
SpinFree MemberI assume they are referring to traditional ‘Blackbeard’ type pirates and not the more modern ‘Somali’ type whose affect on world climate has not been studied in depth.
alex222Free MemberSimply trace the course of our solar system through the milky way and then look for any correlations between proximity or distance from other astral bodies in particular the spiral arms and the weather patterns or climate change on this world for a set period.
Easy as lemon.
FueledFree MemberActually Spin, the fact that Somalia has both the most pirates and the lowest carbon emissions in the world only adds to the evidence…
ernie_lynchFree MemberWhat about pirates in the South China Sea ? … are you going to tell me that China also has some of the lowest carbon emissions in the world ? ffs
alex222Free Memberare you going to tell me that China also has some of the lowest carbon emissions in the world ? ffs
Whilst China’s emissions are high they still have low emissions per head of capita. Which Could go some way to explaining this anomalous reading.
CountZeroFull MemberThe Milky Way, yesterday.
From our vantage point, it might be a while before we pass through any part of it…
From http://skysurvey.org/nealgloverFree MemberNo offence but the world would be a much better place without imperialist capitalism or the slave minions that support and make it’s Tyranny possible.
Ooooh, get a load of you.
I’m holding up an invisible handbag by my chest in both hands by the way.
And I presume you are wearing a Bacofoil titfer at a jaunty angle.
JunkyardFree MemberBe fair the self employed bearing sales person[ capitalist] has at least finally stopped slagging off capitalism and added the part Imperialist to presumably exonerate himself from any blame…its some progress lets encourage it.
bwaarpFree MemberActually Spin, the fact that Somalia has both the most pirates and the lowest carbon emissions in the world only adds to the evidence…
This made me laugh
kaesaeFree MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don’t worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!
TooTallFree MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?
Not really. What are you using as a measure for this?
kaesaeFree MemberTooTall – Member
So have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?
Not really. What are you using as a measure for this?
Water!
tazzymtbFull MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?
that’s Cthulhu stirring from his slumber, the great tenticly entity will soon rise from the seas drown the world and slurp all the humans and boats up like slightly soggy croutons.
in fact all of this can be explained by the great old ones coming back, as the recent increase in earthquakes can also be linked to the burrowers beneath.
GrahamSFull MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse?
I don’t think anyone in this thread has denied that Climate Change is happening kaesae (which the recent UK floods may or may not be a symptom of).
kaesaeFree MemberClimate change, may or may not be causing floods.
Grahams you strike me as a reasonably intelligent person, however I do have to questions how much of an influence the TV and media has on your perspective on things, do you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?
GrahamSFull Memberdo you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?
Eh????????????????
I don’t think I ever proposed that!
Any “bad guys vs good guys” view of that conflict (or pretty much any conflict) is naive and overly simplistic.FWIW I think there is strong evidence from independent sources that President Asshat is slaughtering innocent people to quell unrest, which certainly excludes him from the “good guy” category.
I’m pretty sure he’s not responsible for climate change though!
kaesaeFree MemberInnocent people are being killed in the cross fire, however you stated on another thread that is Al Qaeda are fighting Assad then that makes them the good guys.
Tell you what let’s start a new thread and we can gather some info, if your willing to have your perspective on the situation challenged that is?
GrahamSFull Memberyou stated on another thread that is Al Qaeda are fighting Assad then that makes them the good guys.
Erm I’m very sure I didn’t. 😕
Tell you what let’s start a new thread and we can gather some info, if your willing to have your perspective on the situation challenged that is?
I don’t think you have any idea what my perspective is to be honest.
But hey yeah, why not start another thread? I’m sure your views will be interesting.
danceswithcatsFull MemberI haven’t read all this thread because…well, look at it.
However, one of my students is taking this subject seriously and is working his way through this document. It scares the shit out of me.
The New Scientist regards the question of whether climate change is happening, and the secondary question of whether it is anthropogenic as firmly answered, and NS tends to be quite slow to take firm stands on questions. I am not a scientist, but I try to keep up and the fact that the existing mean rise in global temperature coincides with an even greater and faster increase in extreme weather events than the most pessimistic models were predicting five years ago is one reason why I ride a bike, rather than drive. Not the only reason (cycling is fun), and cycling isn’t the only way I have modified my behaviour, but a serious reason.
On the red herring about solar variations being behind global warming, I recommend this[/url]. As for that stuff about drifting through magnetised ether: 🙄
CountZeroFull MemberTazzy, thanks for the Cthulhu pic, quite made me chuckle!
Although, now I come to think of it, I haven’t seen my Cthulhu plushy around lately, and the odd noises around the house are starting to worry me a bit… 😯piemonsterFree MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don’t worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!
Yes, especially since they started large scale developments on flood plains
tazzymtbFull MemberI haven’t seen my Cthulhu plushy around lately, and the odd noises around the house are starting to worry me a bit…
you squire are a mentalist…..I salute you!
loumFree MemberGrahamS – Member
do you still propose that Al Qaeda are the good guys and Bashar Al-Assad is far worse and obviously the bad guy?
Eh????????????????I don’t think I ever proposed that!
GrahamS – Member
Always good to question the official line, but I don’t find any of that particularly credible.Do a bit more googling and you’ll find plenty of reports from “someone on the ground” reporting exactly the opposite, supporting the UK press coverage that the government troops are killing civilians.
It’s a propaganda war and no mistake – but balancing up officially sanctioned state-media reports from a dictatorship versus reports from Reuters and Assoc Free Press and NGOs, plus what is available from people on the ground, I have to say I think the “rebels” are probably the “good guys” here and President Asshat is the “bad guy”.
POSTED 3 WEEKS AGO # REPORT-POST
GrahamS – Member
And would the “rebels” you talk of be “insurgents” across the border, and “terrorists” across the next border?
Of course. One man’s “freedom fighter” and all that.
Hence my use of quotes.POSTED 3 WEEKS AGO # REPORT-POST
GrahamSFull MemberYes loum, you see those funny little quote things around “bad guys” and “good guys” ?
Those are what are known as Scare Quotes (as MrSalmon pointed out to you on that very same thread)
As wiki puts it: “Scare quotes are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to imply that it may not signify its apparent meaning or that it is not necessarily the way the quoting person would express its concept.”
Hence the bit where I explicitly say “hence my use of quotes“, y’see? If it helps you can imagine me making rabbit ear gestures while I say “good guys” in a sardonic tone.
Also note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.
JunkyardFree MemberEDIT: MUST TYPE QUICKER DOH
I dont see any mention of Al qaeda in his posts but the collective term of “rebels”. The “rebels” are not a united force and cannot be described collectively. I could support the “rebels” and not support Al Qadea or them all;if I am brutally honest I never cared much for C3P0 or the Ewoks
You also missedchosing to differentiate them with the use of the terms Good guys and Bad guys suggests the propaganda is working.- kaesae
GrahamS reply
That was my intent.The truth is always less black and white.
One side is an oppressive dictatorship that is happy to openly murder its own people to maintain control; the other side is a de-stabilising element that fights to overthrow that regime, but could well allow a new Jihadist faction to take control and cause greater conflict in the area.
Dictator v Freedom fighter/terrorists from various factions united only in their opposition of the regime etc. hardly support for Al Qaeda more opposition to the brutal dictator.
PS Nice Gif 😆nealgloverFree MemberSo have you geniuses noticed that the floods are getting worse? don’t worry if they come your way, just redirect them to this thread and you should be fine!
I live in York which has had some flooding this week.
In fact I was unable to get out of our farm for 3 days this week.
But they aren’t “getting worse”
In fact the floods York in 2000 were much worse.
And the floods in York in 1625 were much worse than in 2000.
So. How does that work out Mr Genius ?
loumFree MemberAlso note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.
GrahamS – Member
And would the “rebels” you talk of be “insurgents” across the border, and “terrorists” across the next border?Of course. One man’s “freedom fighter” and all that.
Hence my use of quotes.POSTED 3 WEEKS AGO # REPORT-POST
JunkyardFree MemberObvious troll is obvious – the entire thread is there to be read and you are past distortion and into lies.
What you say is BS
It is clear he is accepting that the term insurgent and freedom fighter is defined by whom you support – he noted he had read Chomsky as well on the thread on the page you linkStill dont see him using the words Al Quadea
kaesaeFree Membernealglover, I would not assume that what we have seen so far are the worst we will see over the next couple of years, normally I would gleefully wind you up, but this is very serious.
I would advice that you review your safety procedures for flooding and also invest a small amount on the right equipment, would it be too big a deal to buy some life preservers or other relevant kit?
Also a good idea to have an alternative light source and cooking source, the power for my area got taken out on Wednesday, luckily I have just bought a portable cooker and some other stuff from ebay.
The weather is at this point unpredictable, take nothing for granted!
GrahamSFull MemberThanks Junkyard.
I’m also 99.9999% sure that Al Qaeda, the Free Syrian Army and President Asshat are about as likely to be responsible for climate change as the heating up of the Earth’s core by cosmic rays 😀
Regardless of whether they are “good” or “bad”.
nealgloverFree Membernealglover, I would not assume that what we have seen so far are the worst we will see over the next couple of years, normally I would gleefully wind you up, but this is very serious.
I would advice that you review your safety procedures for flooding and also invest a small amount on the right equipment, would it be too big a deal to buy some life preservers or other relevant kit?
Also a good idea to have an alternative light source and cooking source, the power for my area got taken out on Wednesday, luckily I have just bought a portable cooker and some other stuff from ebay.
The weather is at this point unpredictable, take nothing for granted!So first you tell me [supposedly factually] that the “Floods are getting worse”
And then I point out to you [Factually] that they aren’t getting worse at all.
And in fact they were much worse almost 400 years ago.Then you basically become a mystic fortune teller, and advise me to buy Life Preservers because you can see biblical floods coming somehow.
Sorry , but You really do seem to have lost the plot.
ernie_lynchFree MemberAlso note that on that thread I was talking about the rebels / Free Syrian Army, not Al Qaeda.
A fair point and undoubtedly true.
So GrahamS, you think the rebels / Free Syrian Army who fight side by side, and work hand in hand, with Al Qaeda, are probably the “good guys” ?
That sounds very much like a previously made mistake.
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
GrahamSFull MemberSo GrahamS, you think the rebels / Free Syrian Army who fight side by side, and work hand in hand, with Al Qaeda, are probably the “good guys” ?
If we’re leaving those scare quotes in place, yes.
If you’re looking for a clear proclamation on who is good and who is bad, then ask Santa.
Why are we even discussing this here? Are all the kaesae threads merging into some kind of Super String?
JunkyardFree MemberDAMN you I really really must type quicker
One side is an oppressive dictatorship that is happy to openly murder its own people to maintain control; the other side is a de-stabilising element that fights to overthrow that regime, but could well allow a new Jihadist faction to take control and cause greater conflict in the area.
I have used bold to help you get what he really thinks rather than you pretending you dont get the sarcastic and derisory tone of good and bad guys”…i mean ernie if there are two things you excel in then it is surely those 😉
ernie_lynchFree Memberrather than you pretending
OK I’m out of here …… I can’t be arsed trying to discuss if we’re going down the road of petty slagging. Have fun 🙂
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